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14 May 2024 | 11 replies
G'Day Bob,Not many "true" turnkey companies around anymore and I've seen a trend where investors want to DIY out of state and country.Personally, I think this is an even bigger recipe for disaster than buying turnkey.bBut that's just my opinion.Back in the day you had many "turnkey" companies selling crappy properties in crappy areas for a lot more than market value.Then they pass you on to a 3rd party PM that nickel and dimes you to death.Granted, if you want to DIY I would always advise moving to the market that you want to invest in.Spending enough time with key people needed to make your venture a success.Yep, easier said than done š¤·āāļøIf you DIY from out of state, you will probably find an "investor friendly" agent that will flog you expensive property from the MLS, refer a "good" contractor and then you will most likely also get nickel and dimed by a referredĀ "trustworthy" PM.IMO, you are safer finding a reputable turnkey provider in a market that you want to invest in and go from there.If $#%@ hit's the fan (Which it always does in real estate), at least you have everyone to blame under the same roof.A true turnkey provider will have everything an out of state investor would/want and need under the same roof.No finger pointing is allowed lolI'm bias as we offer turnkey so take my words with a grain of salt.Just happy to offer my 0.2 Aussie cents.Wishing you much success
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14 May 2024 | 31 replies
G'Day Trevor,Just posted the same below to another investor asking about turnkey and my advice stays the same šThere aren'tĀ many "true" turnkey companies around anymore and I've seen a trend where investors want to DIY out of state and country.Personally, I think this is an even bigger recipe for disaster than buying turnkey.But that's just my opinion.Back in the day you had many "turnkey" companies selling crappy properties in crappy areas for a lot more than market value.Then they pass you on to a 3rd party PM that nickel and dimes you to death.Granted, if you want to DIY I would always advise moving to the market that you want to invest in.Spending enough time with key people needed to make your venture a success.Yep, easier said than done š¤·āāļøIf you DIY from out of state, you will probably find an "investor friendly" agent that will flog you expensive property from the MLS, refer a "good" contractor and then you will most likely also get nickel and dimed by a referred "trustworthy" PM.IMO, you are safer finding a reputable turnkey provider in a market that you want to invest in and go from there.If $#%@ hit's the fan (Which it always does in real estate), at least you have everyone to blame under the same roof.A true turnkey provider will have everything an out of state investor would/want and need under the same roof.No finger pointing is allowed lolI'm bias as we offer turnkey so take my words with a grain of salt.Just happy to offer my 0.2 Aussie cents.Wishing you much success
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13 May 2024 | 16 replies
They created a list of items they want completed...you dont finish that list...you dont get a dime from the Draw.
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14 May 2024 | 125 replies
to me have enough cash to do these things without having to tap into equity.. snow ball your mortgages after keeping healthy reserves its not like making a few hundred bucks a month is going to change your living standards so dont take a dime out of the properties focus on one and pay it off..
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9 May 2024 | 8 replies
I would say, you may be able to get lower rates than mid 8s as my lenders are high 7s for a similar scenarioĀ but you may be tripping over dimes to save nickels.Ā
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9 May 2024 | 65 replies
I can guide you step-by-step through finding properties, getting them under contract, securing financing, hiring a contractor, and getting them back on the market, or even employing the BRRR strategy (Buy, Rehab, Refinance, Rent) without charging you a dime for this invaluable knowledge.Ā
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6 May 2024 | 1 reply
Because the owner was disappointed with her whole situation and was almost given up, I was able to tell her that she can end up with some money and it would not cost her a dime.
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6 May 2024 | 6 replies
I wouldn't offer another dime and I would strongly consider getting rid of this tenant when their lease is up.You should consider requiring renters insurance and stop being so generous when things happen that are out of your control.
5 May 2024 | 6 replies
There is a very good chance you will never see a dime of it, but at least it will sit on their credit report and prevent them from scamming someone else or getting a loan.I'm not allowed to share who I use in the public forum, but you can contact me privately.Ā
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2 May 2024 | 8 replies
If you evicted this tenant then most likely they are judgment proof which means you will not see a dime.Ā