So I always just look up my competitors listings and see what they're charging and how full they are....which amenities do they have, etc....You can double-check with the sites you mentioned, but to rely only on them would be foolish IMHO....

Thanks for the post @Lucas Carl, very interesting read & comments from all.Benjamin I'm curious about the "competitor" report you mentioned in your post.

Look on Airbnb and see what the competitors calendars, nightly rate, and amenities look like, and it should give you a pretty good idea what the numbers would look like for that home. 

My team is beating most of my competitors on 5+ units in this market, would love to get you on a call and see how we can assist you!

Right, because rather than give the actual correct answer and suffer the blow to your ego that you've been doing something wrong for decades, you'd prefer to take a swipe at my ego.

Now you can afford furniture without swiping a credit card. 

You said you live in Austin, no better way to learn than directly so, there is a syndication group Viking Capital LLC, that is buying/raising for a 252 unit property in NewBraunfels, about 45 min south of Austin, watch their webinar at their website below and they have an 82 pg slide show as well, then take a 3 hour trip to go see it, walk the property, go into office ask about the units available/leasing how the market is from the office staff, look around for quality of property/deferred maintenace needed then drive the area for other competitor properties.

If they are offering unheard of rates or LTV, then all their competitors would be out of business. 

We select a list of top 10 competitors in the neighborhood and monitor their pricing closely, adjusting our pricing to theirs after considering reviews, condition of the home, occupancy, etc.4.

We have seen competitors, or people in other businesses that compete with TK, posting things like this from fake accounts to deter people from exploring certain types of investing.