Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:Dawn long time no see.. welcome back hope your doing well.  

Keep my nose down, shut up and just grind away.

Unless the market takes a nose dive then ill just redirect that money into multi-families and save building for another time.

You don't have to sit around and pander, beg, & brown-nose for an extra $5k raise.

so if i offer you a million dollar property that rents for 10k a month for $100,000, but demand you pay me back 10k a month you would say no? 

I'd offer only month to month contracts with all utilities included, so they only have to deal with paying one bill, and I'd let them sublet over the summer to law students coming for summer internships, so my tenants could go to their summer internships somewhere else, and then come back, so I keep my great tenants.I'd hire my own on-site property manager who was my employee, pay her well with lovely bonuses, and an accountant, and I'd have weekly meetings via Skype at least, and I'd have my nose in the books at least quarterly to make sure they're doing a good job. 

Too many people here in Cali believe that unfortunately appreciation is the only way to go.....and when they here about duplexes going for $120K in Ohio they turn their noses up at it.

Today is my first day on BP, so just nosing around.  

HI Johnny,If you want to duplicate, you need to be able to get control of big things at low prices, fix them up, and run them so people desire them and that will make them worth more.Like woody wood pecker pounding your nose into the tree until it finally it turns into saw dust--work hard--doing whatever it takes--and never giving up.Also, it's not just what you know (that's important), it's who you know, and who knows you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?

@Connor DunhamAmerican is up to their nose in debt.