I made the mistake and bought a unit that didn't have the defroster option and the unit locks up into a block of ice the few times the temp drops low.Frank

I am thinking of getting into cash flow properties only due to the fact of any appreciation is just icing on the cake and looking for a long term buy and hold @Bob E. 

I was never someone who could even sell an ice cube to a thirsty person in the desert.

However, I was always a goalkeeper when we played hockey as kids.

Hello - I was hoping to get some thoughts from folks on Bigger Pockets that have worked with a group of investors on real estate deals, specifically as it relates to the first ask or breaking the ice with investors on a deal.  

My steep driveway is still a sheet of ice. :) I'm hoping the sun melts it off but am not sure I'll be going anywhere for a few days! 

Tax savings and any other benefit I can wrangle from owing a corp is just icing on the cake.

The business that I will describe for you can be any business - it can be an ice cream business, or even an office coffee service business.

If I happen to make a buck then that would be icing on the cake.So I went and looked at the comps again.

An example she gave was a tenant ice skating on a frozen swimming pool; I think the tenant fell through the ice and sued the landlord since skating on the frozen pool wasn't forbidden on the lease.