In his defense, I could see the value in his product but do not in many of the guru's products; I'm not a sucker.

Sometimes it’s defense too.

@Basit SiddiqiI have a CPA and have used one from 2019 forward because I work overseas as a civilian defense contractor, so I need the assistance of a CPA to handle the FEIE as well as the K-1.

Cash flow is defensive; you need to it hang on to the property, but leverage + appreciation - forced through renovation or just general market appreciation - is how you get outsized returns in real estate.

.- Scatter site is a defensive asset offering a lot of optionality.- Market conditions are challenging for scatter site hold unless you are underwriting a 10-year hold.- Setting up operations for SFR from scratch is very difficult.- One investor is buying at cap rates in 5s or 6s.

Cash-flow is a defensive strategy at best (I don't find it very reliable; unexpected CAPEX, vacancy, etc.). 

If RE is brand new to you, I would focus on playing defense:1.)

That distinction is important for one very important reason, the asset decisions are being made by the owners (or a direct family member) which eliminates a layer of defense for all these decisions.

The cash flow on this deal is going to be more defensive, the main ways to make money are through appreciation and mortgage paydown.

And if this becomes commonplace what defensive measure could we the investors make?