Skip to content
×
Try PRO Free Today!
BiggerPockets Pro offers you a comprehensive suite of tools and resources
Market and Deal Finder Tools
Deal Analysis Calculators
Property Management Software
Exclusive discounts to Home Depot, RentRedi, and more
$0
7 days free
$828/yr or $69/mo when billed monthly.
$390/yr or $32.5/mo when billed annually.
7 days free. Cancel anytime.
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here

Join Over 3 Million Real Estate Investors

Create a free BiggerPockets account to comment, participate, and connect with over 3 million real estate investors.
Use your real name
By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions.
The community here is like my own little personal real estate army that I can depend upon to help me through ANY problems I come across.
Starting Out
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

Updated 9 months ago on . Most recent reply

User Stats

4
Posts
1
Votes
Richard Hoyte
1
Votes |
4
Posts

Having trouble understanding where the profit is

Richard Hoyte
Posted

Where I lack understanding is at what point do you start making money for example you buy a duplex lets say it was 300k the monthly mortgage is 2,500 each renter pays 1,500 thatd 500 cash flow which is I guess “profit “ but as the landlord you're responsible for major repairs such as but not limited to roofs, plumbing issues, electrical issues that all can be expensive you would have to have money saved so that 500 cash flow is profit but wouldnt it just have to sit in a bank account? 

Most Popular Reply

User Stats

7,926
Posts
6,316
Votes
Andrew Postell
#1 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
  • Lender
  • Fort Worth, TX
6,316
Votes |
7,926
Posts
Andrew Postell
#1 BRRRR - Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat Contributor
  • Lender
  • Fort Worth, TX
Replied

@Richard Hoyte you mean you are doubting that "tik toky" video you saw where you just sit back and collect mailbox money?  But it's so easy to do!

What you are speaking to is a great question and I wish that more people would ask it.  What you are referring to is "cashflow".  So, let's ask another way - what if no properties cash flowed?  Would you invest in real estate?  If you say no, then you would be missing out on a lot of other benefits to creating wealth in real estate.

Cashflow is just ONE way that we make money in "buy and hold" real estate - and it's the least important part of gaining wealth.  We also make money from the "principle buydown" of the mortgage and the "increase in value" on the asset as well.  Those two together create equity.

Here's what I want you to understand about “buy and hold” residential real estate:

  • Let’s use a single family home with a property value of $300,000
  • Let’s use an initial loan amount of $240,000
  • Let’s use an interest rate of 7.25%
  • And I’m going to give you $150 of cash flow per month
  • Use a 5% appreciation amount for your property per year

Let’s see what happens after 5 years:

After 5 years…

  • $150 of cash flow per month = $9,000
  • Your mortgage has been paid down to $227,000 = $13,000
  • Your property is now worth $382,000 = $82,000

So that’s $9,000 of cash flow, $13,000 of principle buy down, and $82,000 of appreciation. We make money in 3 ways with “buy and hold” properties…and cash flow is the smallest piece!

Will you cash flow in this environment currently? No, you will not. At least, I want that to be your expectation. Make your offer a little lower because of it. Also, don’t forget you will increase your rents in year 2, year 3, year 4, etc. So you WILL cashflow eventually but go into the property expecting not to cashflow now. And then you are still going to make $95,000 on a property. Remember Brandon Turner’s article on “How to Make $100,000 per year” – you can read it HERE. Don't forget about it.

I could keep going here but if you have any questions on this feel free to reach out.  Thanks!

  • Andrew Postell
  • Loading replies...