My comments there still stand.

I am looking at this from a Investor stand point, maybe a property management company down the road.

If the former, then I stand on my post.

He would be looking to just roll over around $300,000 and let that stand as our down payment on the $600,000 loan.

But is there anything creative or note worthy you’ve done to stand out or increase the value of your small multi family?

It is super competitive in So Cal and can be hard to stand out.As for the original poster if you want to wholesale that's fine but most "training courses" aren't worth the money they charge.

There are deals out there, but from a wholesaler stand point you need to be creative in digging up your leads.

With so much competition how do you stand out, does this business still have juice in it?

We're certainly not there yet however.To sum up my frustration and the use of that dirty word GREED...I stand behind my use of the word, but a better way of putting it would have been to say that one should really consider their motives in scaling up as much as possible, even after they've attained significant scale.

It stands to reason that those markets will at least have to slow before the rest of the country because wages are not keeping up with housing costs.