But you sound stressed (you should be) and without a way out.

Sounds great Ill look locally first thanks Ryan

Both guys have been mentioned in this thread as less than honest operators in Cleveland, so not sure which one you are referring too.Ah sorry for vagueness - from Bob  Yea, that sounds about right.

The simplest thing to do (at the risk of sounding like I'm teaching how to cheat) is to check the "material participation" box when entering a K1 into your tax software.

Quote from @Luis Maza: Hi all, returning to the game this year and would like to pick your brain a bit, we started working with a wholesaler that will send us properties here and there with the "wholesale" price, but every time we check the properties and add the numbers, the margins are, well, I am not sure, too low perhaps, maybe we are getting to picky, but this is my dilemma for example...Today we got a property, wholesale price 300K, rehab about 50-60K, ARV is about 440k, but with the cost of hard money, we have about 100k cash, hard money interest at 11%, keeping the property for 90 days while we finish the rehab, closing costs,  commissions, we ended with 30k profit before taxes, while it sounds appealing, adding up all expenses and cost we ended up expending 50K on rehab(labor/materials) and about 50-60K with cost of the loan, interest, commissions, etc, everyone makes money, happy with that, but it seems that we are working to produce a 100k for everyone else, while we make 20-30k if everything goes well...In my opinion, we are not really getting "wholesale" price, it seems that we either buying to expensive, rehabs are much more than we would like to spend and the cost of borrowing that money is too high...We came up with thoughts as: lets fund it ourselves with money from a close friend/partner that we will bring in, and that would save us 10-15k here and there, but still, is that the norm now?

It sounds pretty through so far man!

However, from the stories I've heard it so far, sounds like it can lead me to the life I want for my future if I play my cards right.

It didn't sound like it.

It sounds like you’ve already made great strides with your four long-term rentals and that you’re committed to learning and expanding your portfolio, even from afar.

For cold calling I would like them to speak clear English and not obviously sound like an out of the country call center.