I'm talking head down, nose to the grind stone, geek out sessions where we develop in depth and thorough spreadsheet checklists and systems for each process.

Sure, you can overpay and hope for some appreciation, which will likely be here for a few more years, but you will be paying out your nose with negative cash flow for that hope.

In fact, it put so much semi-accurate and accurate-but-misunderstood information out there that it mostly just confused everyone, and before you knew it the "ear nose and throat" doctors had more business than ever before because suddenly everyone with a sunburn thought they had skin cancer, every stubbed toe was a compound fracture, and so on.

I like to nose around on BiggerPockets because its one of the few forums I’ve seen where people actually know what they’re talking about- there’s always something to learn on here.

It will be a hell of a lot cheaper than letting them stick their noses in while doing the job.

You really have to know what you are doing.Lot's of big builders bought out fractured or whole projects for very little cost in the last downturn.

Who wants the government coming into their property and poking their nose around?

@Joi JohnsonJoi,    Your best area to invest is right under your nose.

My attorney went in to court this week (Tuesday) and he informed me that this new judge was much different than the last one, she his hard nosed and will not allow any ********.

I chose to ignore the mantra the conventional wisdom and made a solid choice to choose long term wealth over short term cash flow.Investors who turned their nose up at the deal with 10 year fixed debt 20 year amortization are now kicking themselves and many many find themselves in some failed value add deal with the lender knocking on their door.I choose long term fixed rate debt over cash flow and my investors and I will reap the benefits from this decision.