I'm not anti leverage on principal by any means, we are just doing it debt free and having great success and I was curious if anyone else out there was.

And remember in any MLM the top of the pyramid those folks make boat loads of money on all the ants below them I am not anti paid coaching but it think reality has to come into play as others have stated Account Closed  its takes more than a course to be successful at real estate.

As much as we'd like to be "socially responsible", the reality is that certain groups of tenants don't appreciate improvements - they are looking for somewhere to sleep and store their things as well as a rent level that reflects just that.Further, after having been personally attacked by various anti-gentrification groups, I've come to realization that you are damned if you do, damned if you don't.

@Dan Wickland Sounds like a typical, anti-capitalist liberal.

We love it when a major company decides it wants to be proactive about ensuring that anti-discrimination laws are followed.

There is an anti trust post @Jerry Lucker that puts the fear into those of us not knowing anything about trusts.

I am not anti-PM.

When you look at MLS inventory once a week, don't really know your numbers, and arent willing to offer on anything that has potential, it's easy to get into that anti-MLS mindset. 

The new bank owner didn't care for what was happening, and called or maybe wouldn't refi his debt.He was leveraged to his eyes, and slowly lost everything and ended up in BK.That's why he's so anti debt now.

But no doubt Boise and other parts of Idaho are reaping the CA overflow and out flow from Oregon / for those that don't care to live anymore in an ultra liberal anti police society LOL..