Two of the biggest players in this space just folded.

If I were a betting man the company is folding up and this dutch character is out there doing the guru circuit as only source of $ and idiots will pay for training from someone like this.  

It's a simple 3x5" card that is folded in half.

I've always believed in the saying that "there is nothing wrong with any deal, as long as the price is right" lol.This might sound cliche but all of Cleveland can cashflow if you buy cheap enough and if you buy with cash.And cashflow it can very well.Just like all of Ohio.You make money when you buy and not when you sell.So make sure to buy dirt cheap.Buying cheap also "acts" as a margin of safety for any mishaps that happen during rehab or issues like the OP had with the first property manager.I see many folks nowadays buying off the MLS and overpaying, spending too much on rehab and then getting dimed to death by property management.While I'm sitting on the sidelines as a turnkey provider watching it all un-fold and thinking how they just could have bought my "overpriced" turnkey property and would have been into the deal for at least 30% cheaper...It's a shame but it's what the people want, so many give the people what they want.Thanks 

I help my cleaner in the busy season (although I still can't fold a fitted sheet properly!).  

“The governor has doubled the size of our firefighting army, built the world’s largest aerial firefighting fleet and the state has increased the forest management ten-fold since he took office,” Newsom spokesperson Izzy Gardon told Fox News.Thank you for sharing.

But the best course of action here is two fold: Visit your local REI groups.

Sometimes you need to know when you can hold em and when its time to fold em and move on.

This is a big investment and I’d be doing myself a disservice by jumping into real estate investing blind folded or with unrealistic expectations.

-Paper folding machine, this will save you a ton of time.