Problem is only "RE pros" get to do it.There are 3 income classifications in the US - Active, Portfolio, and PassiveActive income is income derived from your job, or normal trade or business.Portfolio income is derived from bank instruments - stocks, bonds, etc.Passive income is income earned from investments.Active losses can wipe out both passive and portfolio income, but it doesn't work the other way around.Portfolio (capital) losses are limited to $3,000 annually.Passive losses can only be offset by passive gains.Real estate rental income by its nature is deemed passive per IRC Sec 469One way to get around it is to become a pro - spend more than 750 hours or 1/2 your time in real estate.But most folks aren't real estate pros.

The bank would still want to know about the commission to include it as an expense on the final closing disclosure.All the best!

Quote from @Sonja Revells: @Chris Seveney primarily Padsplits  I would speak to a few lenders first before going through all these hoops, as I started to do this then when talking to banks they were basically telling me either get a secured mortgage as they will not lend to a real estate company on unsecured credit/debt.

Not without the bank signing off on it.

Given the seasonality there's likely slow workflow from the banks so it would be a good for you to apply, get approved, and be well poised for the spring market!

I have an assistant enter this once a month from the PM reports provided (and just a bank account statement for the single tenant properties which don't have PMs).

How does one take the owner finance situation to a bank and turn it into a 30 year loan to hold without an additional down payment of 20 percent ?

Texas division of banking (whatever they are called in that state) probably should have done something but appears they didn’tDHS actually is one of the departments that prosecuted criminal financial crimes - most think of them only as border patrol as their major function but they also investigate this type of activityhttps://www.dhs.gov/hsi/investigate/financial-crimeTime will tell if these cases ever go anywhere but for those involved probably just happy someone finally picked up a phone to atleast listen to IRS criminal is another good one to sic on them..

It varies deal to deal, on one property maybe up to 65% LTV, but if you have more collateral the more likely they can make something work.For example, I've done numerous deals where we place a 2nd on 4-5 properties and the lender feels comfortable lending x amount of dollarsThese are very non traditional loans and no two will ever be the same.

If it does and you can't rent your house traditionally without covering $1,000 a month in costs, and you can't sell because the value isn't there, then you're in a pretty frustrating situation.