It's your money, so I don't mind if you just want to use us for 1 piece of the puzzle, or just a second set of eyes to look at a situation and answer a quick question.

I think part of the puzzle in finding these kinds of lenders it to make a list of all the people you know who MIGHT have a higher net worth, or a sizable portion of assets in lower yielding investments like CDs.

one thing I see is in these bigger cities in the mid west much of the urban core is more renter dominated than other urban cores.and landlords are doing a better job with their work so you don't see as many failed landlords or burnt out landlords as in the past. so that inventory is not hitting the market  Jay that is certainly the case for Milwaukee, landlords are more educated, probably also because of the good work people do on BP and locally, the Brew City - full credit to @Rebecca Knox What puzzles me is that I see the same hesitation in the wealthy suburbs, 350k and up.

As others have said, price tenant is willing to pay is only one piece of the puzzle. 

I am puzzled at these new builds marketing to millennials with a $400k+ starting price point.  

Get copies of everything and you will be able to piece together the puzzle of new construction in your area.The key things to watch out for are the following:1) Insurance and liability Make sure you get a good builder's risk policy.

If the hive isn't in that area, they will have to cut a few more exploratory holes to locate the hive, then the job will be completed properly.

I enjoy real estate investing because I like solving the puzzle.

I have also browsed through some listsource queries as well.For goals: I would love to complete the rest of the Wholesailing puzzle by learning how to do comps & estimate repair costs and then learning the proper steps to actually complete the transactions with sellers and buyers.

No one source is perfect, but like in finding property values without MLS access you can put together pieces of the puzzle to help you "zero in" on the market rents.I have no affiliation with any of those mentioned above, just my own personal use/experience.