Are you familiar with Creative Financing such as Subject To (SubTo), SubTail, WRAPS, Short Term Lending, and Bridge loans? 

It is not walking distance to much but a short drive to a lot and generally a touristy area. 

Have we gotten to a point in this industry where a property is more attractive by short changing the true fundamentals and classifying the property an affordable housing opportunity? 

This could be an opportunity to add value by offering to help with clearing or relocating those items as part of any potential agreement.Why This Could Be a Good Move for YouYou see long-term potential in the property, especially with the large lot and development possibilities (even if those are years down the line).As the current tenants, you have the advantage of a direct relationship with the landlord and familiarity with the property, reducing competition and risk.This could be a chance to lock in a property that you might otherwise lose if it hit the open market, especially in today’s competitive environment.Challenges to ConsiderIf the landlord is emotionally tied to the property or reliant on rental income, they may be reluctant to sell.Financing could be tricky, especially with today’s interest rates and the gap between the current rent and what a conventional loan might cost.The development potential you’re interested in is likely a long-term play, which means the property could be financially tight in the short term, especially if you’re only breaking even or slightly negative on cash flow.Structuring a Potential DealTo make this feasible, you’ll likely need to explore creative financing options that align with both your financial capacity and the landlord’s goals.Seller Financing: Propose a deal where the landlord acts as the lender, allowing you to make monthly payments directly to them.

So we would have to get a loan, pay off the seller and transfer title and then wait the seasoning period before doing a refi unless there is a bank out there that will treat it as a refi off the bat

I tend to ask the same questions multiple times over a period of time to see if I get consistent answers.

Based on my research, several lenders stand out, but I’d appreciate firsthand experiences.Key Considerations:Loan Terms: Fixed rates up to 35 years, interest-only periods (e.g., 10-year interest-only options), and non-recourse structures.Competitive Rates: Recent transactions show rates ranging from 2.69% to 4.65% depending on LTV (55%–80%) and property type.Lender Specialization: Some lenders excel in specific areas:Greystone and Walker & Dunlop lead in Fannie/Freddie volume and large-scale refinancing.Arbor Realty Trust is praised for smaller-balance loans and flexibility.CREFCOA offers streamlined refinancing with 45–60 day closings and cash-out up to 80% LTV.HUD 223(f) loans provide 35-year fixed terms, ideal for stabilized properties.Questions for the Community:Have you worked with lenders like Greystone, Arbor, or Freddie Mac?

@Michael Baum how many Short-term rentals do you manage this way where you are on call all the time?

However, the tax treatment differs between short-term and long-term rentals:Short-Term Rentals (STRs): If you materially participate (work 100+ hours and more than anyone else on the property), you may be able to offset rental deductions against W-2 or other active income, offering greater tax benefits.Long-Term Rentals (LTRs): If your AGI exceeds $100K, your rental losses may be limited, unless you qualify as a Real Estate Professional (REPS).If you plan to expand your rental portfolio, consider an LLC later for liability protection and easier management.

Say they sold the properties over 3 year period and could not sell the rentals together as a portfolio.Could they put the money from each sale into a DST then use the total to buy a expensive rental property?