I don't tend to get too heated on the licensed vs non-licensed debate.

Of course, I won't know about the electrical and heat until i get the inspection.

The tenants use the heat like CRAZY in this place....Can I legally put a lockbox around the thermostat and set it at a fixed temp?

I felt real guilty about not being able to fix it myself and my Dad wouldn't be very happy with me either, but as a kid we only heated with a wood stove and I never got the chance to learn how to fix a oil furnace.

We are also concious of energy and try to keep our utility bills to a minimum (shutting off lights, keeping heat down, etc.,).

But I would admonish everyone to wait and see and remain fluid and flexible about the future.

For example if its gas heat in your name and electric in theirs, change it to electric heat.

Here are the details which we know of at this point... 48 unit complex (44 2 bedrooms, 4 1 bedrooms) in good condition with all new roofs and windows, and seperate heat and a/c in each unit.

I've got three rentals with underground oil tanks because when I got them they all heated with oil.

You're right me and Jeff and even countless others want to protect the new guys from being scammed so we are going to call out people who don't come up with some sort of proof that any program they promote or praise works.We are going to keep calling out people who don't fess up about these programs and if that means coming down on them hard then so be it anything to keep the new guys for signing up something that they will regret later on.If you can't handle this J Lamar than your only recourse is to leave the site because whether or not you like it we are coming down hard on shills big time.Can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen as the old saying goes.So either fess up and provide proof or don't complain and cry when we call you out and criticize you for it.