And you might have to do a little clean-up, touch-up painting, etc. which will further push-out the payback period. 

@Lumi Ispas well me and my wife are currently pre approved for 150 k FHA (in our area that could generally buy you a move in ready property that could use some touch ups)   but i didn't exactly want to start with a rental or house hack .i understand that cash partners are a great option and i plan on using them down the road but i feel like it will be rly hard to convince people to give their hard earned money for my first flip .... i believe it will be a lot easier after i establish some sort of a track record before i go out and start reading capital either through promissory note or funds also i thought what could give me somewhat of an edge going with hard money was my experience in the construction industry, my contacts in various trades and my ability to do things myself if need be ..also my mentor having more than 15 years experience in the industry Also thank you for all your insight 

The house was not in bad shape; some minor sheetrock touch up, one door was off the hinges and had to be replaced, but she left a bunch of junk (“I’ll have it removed by Saturday”) that I had to take to the dump.

This way I control my brand and can apply a personal owner's touch up front. 

Or if you have any feedback please post it on the thread - cosmetic wise, I'd like to see them remodel the master bath which I could help them do, touch up some stain in areas, among a few other minor things to really make the house pop.  

It only needed touch up in a few wall areas and baseboards but the prior paint was flat and it was advised that I repaint with semigloss to avoid similar wall paint cleaning issues in future.

Hello fellow Biggerpockets members,I hired a painter for a 2 Bedroom condo paint job in Oak Park IL (West suburb of Chicago), He did majority of the work except two rooms  and some touch ups on Windows wooden frames.

Painting would add to their expense and would probably require painting the whole wall as I don't have the color number for the paint in order to do touchups.

We spent an entire Saturday power washing, cleaning out the rain gutters, doing some touch up painting, swapping out plumbing fixtures, doing a little trim work, replacing light bulbs, trimming bushes, and doing general housekeeping and yard work.  

Brandon this is about a 7-8 mos. project for us - to flip the entire building over and renovate it and get it back online with new tenant pool of occupants - I renovate as many as I can simultaneously, just set it up like a conveyer belt and move through them in sequence:*Demo team - remove all old fixtures, flooring etc, cut out all tile in whole sheets - then they set the new cement board and get the drywall hung and taped, set the new plumbing rough-in valve*Flooring and Tile team follow - get that installed with the new shoe mold on the perimeter*Painting team follows*Finish team returns for all fixture and finish install - *Painters complete touch-ups if needed *Cleaning team - BOOM!