It takes time and they're not doing so from a position of just getting started.I started out buying rentals off of the MLS, putting 20% down.

We don’t know your financial position so only you can decide if this is right for you.  

Job" typically means something you are paid a W2 salary for.

Very few are in financial positions where tax strategies should be prioritized in their real estate business outside of perhaps timing and tax consequences of selling real estate. 

If you find out what their dreams are, perhaps refinancing can align with those dreams if you position it the right way?

How can I position myself as a valuable asset in such collaborations?

Now, when I go over there, I throw on some 1992 Jordans with sticky bottoms and do a solid jump stop on them and they slide right back into position.  

At this point the poster has great potential to move in a positive direction based on feedback while you have shown virtually no potential here.

Second, as you can see on this thread, some of our colleagues take a rather cowboy approach, and I disagree with their position.

At first, I wanted to just save it to build up enough investment funds to move to my next deal, but open to suggestions.Any advice on steps to take to move in the right direction if you were in my position is greatly appreciated.