the utilities are seperated, each unit has its own thermostat and meter.

thanks for the responding john based on the comps around the neighborhood my property ARV is between 300-350k when I'm done and the market is climbing slowly so who's knows what it would be worth in 5-10 yrs hopefully more i plan to rent out 3 of the units and live in the 4 unit for 1-2 yrs and bank rents and manage property myself i don't have a exact concrete number on operating cost yet but i predict i will be bringing in anywhere between 3200-4000 dollars a month in rent and then also my unit when i move would bring in more income my strategy goal is to put the money away as income and then apply for a fha loan for my next property take advantage of 3-5% down and buy another 3-4 unit multi family and live there and grow my portfolio by owning and managing my own properties but i know on the third property i will have needed to put down 20-30 percent which would be fine because i have equity and assets and also options on what route i would like to take my question you kind of already answered was is this a smart decision to go no mortgage route and assume so much risk by using up all of my funds to get in the game because sometimes when i talk to people they make it seem like I'm crazy for wanting to start out this route but i feel like if they had the opportunity to start out independent why wouldn't they go that route if you know what I'm trying to say also i am a little nervous seeing that i am 29 and this will be my fist time taking on my on investment and running my own business and projectsalso any advice,pointers,tips any positive tips would be greatly appreciated also on a side note on all my mechanicals for the house i will be buying everything that i can that comes with a energy saving rebate, boilers,water tank,thermostat, etc i strongly believe in saving money and being energy efficient  on whatever i can 

Hello BP,My rental is a single family home that I'd like to upgrade with a nest thermostat.

Oh yeah; put fresh batteries into the thermostat if they need these.It's a whooole lot easier to do these things when the units are empty than when you get a call in the middle of the night.Gail

To consume excess heating fuel, they just crank up the thermostat temperature and open some windows for "fresh air" :)

This time he's complaining about the insulation in the house  and how he has to set his thermostat to 75 to get it to heat up to 70.

People tell me I could just lock the thermostats at the state minimum, but I'd rather tenants be able to have all the heat they want.

@Charles Mullins, I use a cleaning lady that I found on Craigslist and she has been wonderful.I just text her days I need house cleaned and then I mail her a check after she cleans.I use a lock box for keys, wifi thermostats to control the temperature when no one is there.

The first realtor I worked with got mad at me for fidgeting with the thermostat, pulling on handrails and wiggling the toilets.

I pay around $8500 for 4 story, new construction house, 2200 sq ft, including a nest thermostat.