I don't know your criteria for a good deal, but if you're strictly looking on market for a quad in Raleigh you likely won't find one in the near future that meets what you're looking for.I have been looking in both Raleigh and Charlotte for the past few months and I barely came across any good deals at least online.

Check out other online guides available here: https://www.biggerpockets.com/guides3.

Basically you need to know what you are doing in DM or Online for it to work, otherwise, you will spend thousands of dollars without success@Jonathan Krauser.

Given most properties appreciated to the point the equity was above both the first and second, he mostly got paid in full when the owner sold or refinanced and made a ton of money off it.

If not from CT and there's any networking events or groups online - id love to hear which groups you recommend/ webinars . lastly, any advice on how to properly approach investing professionals as a beginner - would be greatly appreciated. 

Oh and one other thing, refinancing or getting a HELOC is not free - there are closing costs, appraisals, points, etc. to consider. 

Hi,What are some on-line list building options? 

You will learn 100x what you would in an online forum and you won't get pitched every five seconds.

Use an online mortgage calculator to get an amortization schedule and present it with the offer.

Connect with local real estate agents, attend meetups, or hop on online forums.