@Tom Gimer  at some point in time all these folks who post these  " help I made a gap funding loan or a second position loan"  will come to understand that these are by far the most dangerous and risky real estate proposition out there well a 3rd would be worse.sad state of affairs.that's one thing I like about the CA BRE mandatory forms if your doing loans there you have to make disclosures and you have to have the lender acknowledge they understand that by making a second they may have to pony up the dough for the first.. once they fully understand that many decline because they realize they don't have the wherewithal to cure.loaning Money in NJ is already one of the toughest places for the first lender can imagine why anyone would consider it in second.. ?

How much of a value increase is of course tied to the solar value proposition. - Solar systems in CA, for example, likely adding greater value because of the underlying cost of utility power.For the most part, anyone with a tax liability would be better to own a solar system by cash payment or zero down finance.

I do not know where you get your numbers but prop 10 recently got whooped on a state level and that proposition was not to institute rent control but simply to allow municipalities to institute rent control where it is now banned on the state level (biggest aspect is no rent control on units built after 1995 and exempts SFR and condos from rent control state wide). 

I don't normally hear the value proposition of "let's rehab 1/2 the apartment building a then sell it!" 

I don't know anything about Fortune Builders, but my take on "gurus" is this: for the most part, most everything they tell you is true or at least can be true (blatant lying could cause legal issues), most of the value is in the culling of information that's already available somewhere else for free or for cost, most of the high cost is because people tend not to value low-cost propositions, and most of the techniques/procedures are oversimplified, such that beginners quickly become discouraged and drop out or move on to something else.

It is a very risky proposition, business-wise, unless the buyer is someone really close.

Trading Seattle for a place where you get *less* bang for your buck (Boston, NYC, LA, etc.) and a high-tax state doesn't sound like the best value proposition.  

We've found their rates and value proposition(s) to be pretty squalid, to be honest.

Haha I believe that a big part of my value proposition is my knowledge of the investment side of the industry.

As a licensed contractor, I feel that investores need a strong and trusting relationship with a contractor (Value Proposition).