What I mean by that is that paying for leads that get sent to you just because you are paying for them is not smart scale right now, it costs too much for lukewarm.I was on Zillow Flex with my team of 50 for years and crushed it, but we had to kiss a lot of frogs at 35 percent referral fee.

Not a course, but I recommend the book "Crushing it in Apartments and Commercial Real Estate" by Brian H Murray.

@Austin Wolfffair point, but there are also tons of threads on BP from folks in HCOL areas who bought a property in Baltimore or Cleveland or Memphis and got absolutely crushed by deferred maintenance.of course it's possible to invest successfully from California but it just seems like a lot of new investors are very much not set up to do it property. 

IF things didn't work out neither one of us would be crushed by the loss but we could spread our risk over multiple notes incase we got one that was just a bummer.If you send me a connection I would be happy to PM you our you can call me and I we can discuss.

You are off to a great start because you know you don't want to LEAVE your job to do real estate, you want real estate to be a sufficient side car to the job you are already crushing out of the gate.

Hawaii is more complicated than most people think, but you can crush it there if done right.

These quit early propagators don't tell the "students" that nothing in real estate is actually passive other than syndications and you still need to crush the due diligence to not get taken for a ride.

I would add:Over-leverage: seeing people get owner finance and someone to toss them a total of 100% financing plus the costs of renovation sometimes crushes them even if they come in on budget and have the right ARV as they miscalculate the time it takes to sell as well as forget about all the other costs involved in a real estate transaction.

Quote from @Robin Simon: Quote from @Jordan Moorhead: @Robin Simon prices of homes in East Austin have gotten crushed.

There’s a huge difference between winging it and setting up a system that consistently brings in genuinely motivated sellers.Get a website, focus on the 3 pillars of conversion (look it up), and crush it.