If you seem like you are just gathering information to self-manage than they will likely blow you off.

Otherwise find out if Hawaii has a senior advocate division.

Playing devil’s advocate - why shouldn’t they be?

And maybe we have another coming up with Covid if you have some self employed end up with bruised credit because of what's happened I could see this happening again.although we know that appreciation was on fire since 2012 when things hit all time bottoms..Although on devils advocate  lets say the houses never went up . ? 

This is what blows my mind about the cults of seller finance - they teach you to pay anything for a home because you can put little money into it.

Not the intention, just being very direct here: I am not going to show those numbers for 2 reasons.1) if I did ( and I would blow you away if I did), it would only cause people to misunderstand what I am trying to teach and 2) I don't have to show you or anyone anything.

that is totally unrealistic return.. your going to blow your 15k and be very dissappointed why would they give you 50k profit deals just to sell you a 15k course.. ??? 

One stat showed that about 4 in 775 traders didn't blow the account within 4 months-that's how many are successful!

A devil's advocate got their success likely the same you won't; their preaching against is almost useless and baseless. 

You may need to resubmit things several times, have a hard time getting ahold of them, and there is a very high chance they blow your deal up last minute, but at least you have the opportunity to get the best rate!