We have also found looking at actuals and Airdna numbers of the same property, that they're pretty well right on once we take cleaning fees out.    

This location is in a 1mm population metro area, 230 units, and cost is about $1,800,000 all in.Limits of Insurance: Coverage:Liability and Medical Expenses$2,000,000/$4,000,000 Occurrence/Aggregate Comprehensive Business Liability$2,000,000 Any One Person Personal & Advertising Injury$4,000,000 Aggregate Products Completed Operations Aggregate$2,000,000 Any One Fire Fire Damage$25,000 Occurrence Customers' Goods Legal Liability Deductible: $0$25,000 Aggregate Sale and Disposal Liability Deductible: $1,000$10,000 Any One Person Medical Payments $1,000,000 Occurrence Hired Non-Owned$300,000 Each Employee Employee Benefits Liability$25,000/$25,000 Per Claim/Aggregate Employment Practices LiabilityLoc Class Desc Coverage Limit Ded Valuation Type 1 Self-StorageBlanket Building & Business Personal Replacement Cost Property $2,100,000 $25,000Earthquake IncludedSinkhole IncludedWindstorm or Hail Included 5%Business Income Actual Loss Sustained 24 MonthsPollution Clean-Up & Removal $100,000Employee Dishonesty $15,000Money & Securities - Inside $10,000Money & Securities - Outside $5,000Accounts Receivable $25,000Electronic Data $20,000Valuable Papers & Records $25,000Fine Arts $10,000Employee Personal Property $10,000Limited Pollutant Removal $25,000/$100,000Cosmetic Loss Limitation IncludedEquipment Breakdown Protection IncludedPremium, Fees, and Taxes: BOP Premium: $ 7,760.00Optional Terrorism Premium: $ 31.00Total Premium: $ 7,791.00Key notes:a.

Here is some key information:Property recently hit the market and has 2 cash offers alreadyThe seller provided a pre-inspection report, which I shared with 2 different lenders, both think it may fail conventional financing due to potential structural and electrical issues (realtor thinks it could pass conventional)Seller has 100% equity but is behind on other payments (not sure of the urgency money is needed)This is my first attempt at an “investment” property so I’m new to thisI see 3 optionsMove forward with an offer using conventional loan pre-qualification-Not as attractive of an offer to the seller-Possibility that appraiser calls out structural/electrical issues that need to be fixed before closing, effectively causing financing to fail- Best terms and fewest loan fees for meUse a rehab style loan such as ChoiceRenovation-Even less attractive than a conventional offer to seller, but less risk of failed financing if appraiser calls out issues-Slightly worse fees and interest rates compared to conventional-Lenders tell me possibly up to 60-90 days closing in some cases, with red-tape for contractor requirements and draw schedules (sounds like the most hoops to jump through during rehab)Use a hard money lender-Most attractive loan option I can give to seller so I can compete-Much higher fees and interest rate for me-need to refinance into a conventional at the end of rehab (not familiar with seasoning periods but I think this is a factor as well)Which option would you do?

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean?

No fees, no pre-pay.

Getting the application and fee for the first lease completed now.

Property manager (PM) 's lawyer continued the case to get the unpaid rent from the tenant.PMA between landlord and property manager(PM) has also expired so landlord got the property back , but when landlord requested to settle the account and the deposit( there is one month deposit from landlord also), PM refuses since the lawsuit is going on with the tenant, Additionally PM is still charging the monthly property management fees from landlord even though landlord is managing the property.Landlord is done dealing with PM and requested the PM to withdraw the lawsuit against the tenant ( landlord is aware that he will loose 2 months rent), PM came back saying they cannot withdraw the lawsuit since that will violate fair housing law.QUESTION:Does withdrawing unpaid rent case against the tenant violate fair housing law ?

But what I would point out to you is that the typical fee for property management is 8-10% of GROSS rent.

@Christopher Alley we use a lot of private money in the rehab business, and I have never paid any up front fees. 

. $10k in debt does not seem like it is worth filing bankruptcy as you also will have the filing fees to file bk and if you use an attorney it could be another $5k, To me if you can save $10,000 a year then start saving and pay off that debt, as filing bk will hurt your credit wehere paying off these debts will improve your credit.