Thanks, I'm not sure if I'll be able to procure enough skin in the game to win them over, but it's been enlightening so far.

They have more skin in the game then you do.Make sure you get clear title.

In fact some of the older panels are deemed obsolete & should be replaced, especially if you see surface rust on the bottom shelf of the panel.Here's a pic showing busbar corrosion on the one I replaced due to years of basement humidity/moisture.Good luck....

Dont use excuses to stop you from moving forward, simply find a way to make it possible. my intent wasn't to throw up roadblocks, just setting expectations. the expectation of banks is usually for the borrower to have skin in the game, this is not a hard and fast rule, but one that shouldn't be expected to overcome.

Now on the surface it seems like a pretty decent idea; however i have a few questions for them (which i've asked) but  I wanted to know from this groups perspectives the pros/cons that you all may have experienced in similar situations.

You may also need to replace carpeting and other soft surfaces.

Hi Oliver, from the surface it looks like it is worth a deeper look.Where around Jackson Park is it?

These coaches/mentors will be more invested (they have skin in the game just like the banks will want from you when you borrow) and are a little easier to get a hold of when you need help.

The idea of allowing a tenant to paint any surface in my apartments is just crazy -- they'll screw up everything I've done to bulletproof the paint jobs and allow easy touchup and colormatching.

They have more skin in the game then you do.Make sure you get clear title.