For those interested, a combination of mortgages with no “due on sale” clause, mortgage companies loose due diligence, and title insurers willingness to “turn a blind eye” to practices that wouldn’t pass scrutiny now, resulted in tactics like the “second mortgage crank” which not only allowed investors to purchase properties with no money out of pocket but allowed investors to actually walk away from closing with “cash in their pocket”.

Personally I think this is where a lot of sale lease back programs fail the seller.

Quote from @Sara Valentine: I have rented my personal home as a fully furnished/lots of amenities 3 month rental jan, feb, and march the past 3 years.

I'm still in the process of finding an alternative solution but I thought I'd leave this here as a warning for others looking to make a decision.For reference, I'll just post their email response to me here:As we review your inquiry, we would like to remind you of the following key points from our Terms of Use:In no instance shall ShinePay be liable for any of the following:"Lost revenue from service interruptions.Lost revenue stemming from delays, malfunctions of any product.unauthorized gains access to your account or due to shared passwords or if your password is hacked.Destruction to properly, places, or personal injury resulting from the installation, misinstalling, or misuse of any product.Lost revenue from entering the wrong account number for ACH or other bank transfer or money transfers or due to any delay in receiving funds.Damage to your structure, machines or car resulting from use or installation of our products.Any funds collected that are paid to a person that does not own the property.Any harm from defeating the lock and technology that controls the lock to a device.Failure to properly service any product or machine."

I personally use a company called swift permits.

On more than one occasion I’ve talked with a person or two that was offering real estate coaching and I found out very quickly that either it was not what they were advertising or they was not far enough along to be coaching anyone except maybe a complete newbie or maybe it wasn’t the strategy for me.Anyway, that’s my ramble for this morning.

Not sure if they have upgraded to desktop appraisals but if they are still doing in person appraisals , make sure you get everything (scope of work, good faith deposit, social, LLC docs, insurance, proof of prior experience, financial statements) in ASAP.

The answer to that question will probably be eye-opening for you!

I think it's just for text, not to talk with a live person.

Told them to do a drive by and call me back with an offer :)The person who called you probably just spent $15,000 for mentoring and “education”, and is now in panic that his 250 cold calls have not produced anything .