I would at least get the permit to build as many units as possible.Then, you can decide to either build, package the whole deal to sell and roll the equity into something else, or refinance and buy something else.

I didn't say you can't refinance the loan, only that it may not make sense.

I would focus on flipping to build more capital; however, if the deal allows you to use the BRRRR method then I would refinance into a DSCR loan after the rehab is complete.

Obviously, with rates dropping I am looking to refinance to reduce that rate.

His recommendation was to wait a year for rates to fall and refinance the house so he can get some of the cash equity out. 

Only when the buyer pays off the mortgage or refinances it will the seller be released from the mortgage.

If not a rate and term refinance into conventional loan will help you save more on your monthly payment because you lose FHA MIP.You are allowed to put up to 10 properties on your personal credit.

Client Name: Property Adddress: Current Property Type: Post Rehab Property Type: Level of Finishes: List Structural Changes: Final Bed/Bath Count: Exit Strategy (sell or refinance): PHASE 1: PRE-CONSTRUCTION Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Drawings $ - $ - $ - Permits $ - $ - $ - Expeditor $ - $ - $ - Alarm/Security $ - $ - $ - Temporary Fencing $ - $ - $ - Portable Toilets $ - $ - $ - Engineering Fees $ - $ - $ - Architectural Fees $ - $ - $ - Utilities $ - $ - $ - TOTAL PRE-CONSTRUCTION $ - $ - $ - PHASE 2: DEMOLITION Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Interior Demo Exterior Demo Dumpsters TOTAL DEMOLITION $ - $ - $ - PHASE 3: CORE AND SHELL Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Excavation $ - $ - $ - Foundation $ - $ - $ - Underground Plumbing $ - $ - $ - Drain Tile $ - $ - $ - Sump Pump $ - $ - $ - Steel $ - $ - $ - Floor Joists $ - $ - $ - Subfloor $ - $ - $ - Rough Carpentry $ - $ - $ - Interior Stairs $ - $ - $ - Dormer $ - $ - $ - Roof Masonry Siding Windows Exterior Paint Soffit/Fascia Gutters Landscaping Walkways Exterior Doors $ - $ - $ - Exterior Stairs $ - $ - $ - Porch $ - $ - $ - Deck $ - $ - $ - Driveway $ - $ - $ - Garage TOTAL CORE AND SHELL $ - $ - $ - PHASE 4: HVAC Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description HVAC Rough Furnace Condensing Unit & Lineset $ - $ - $ - HVAC Trim $ - $ - $ - TOTAL HVAC $ - $ - $ - PHASE 5: ELECTRICAL Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Electrical Rough $ - $ - $ - Electrical Finish & Fixtures Low Voltage TOTAL ELECTRICAL $ - $ - $ - PHASE 6: PLUMBING Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Water Service Upgrade $ - $ - $ - Sewer $ - $ - $ - Plumbing Rough $ - $ - $ - Water Heater $ - $ - $ - Plumbing Trim & Fixtures $ - $ - $ - TOTAL PLUMBING $ - $ - $ - PHASE 7: DRYWALL AND DOORS Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Insulation $ - $ - $ - Drywall, Tape, Sand $ - $ - $ - Finish Carpentry (Trim) $ - $ - $ - Interior Doors $ - $ - $ - Interior Paint $ - $ - $ - TOTAL DRYWALL $ - $ - $ - PHASE 8: FLOORS Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Hardwood Floors $ - $ - $ - Tile Vinyl Carpet $ - $ - $ - TOTAL FLOORS $ - $ - $ - PHASE 9: KITCHEN Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Cabinets Countertops Backsplash Plumbing Fixtures $ - $ - $ - Light Fixtures Appliances TOTAL KITCHEN $ - $ - $ - PHASE 10: BATHROOMS Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description BATHROOM # 1 Tub $ - $ - $ - Shower Tile Vanity Countertop Plumbing Trim & Fixtures Light Fixtures Glass & Mirrors $ - $ - $ - Bath Accessories $ - $ - $ - TOTAL BATHROOM # 1 $ - $ - $ - BATHROOM # 2 Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Tub $ - $ - $ - Shower Tile Vanity Countertop Plumbing Trim & Fixtures Light Fixtures $ - $ - $ - Glass & Mirrors $ - $ - $ - Bath Accessories $ - $ - $ - TOTAL BATHROOM # 2 $ - $ - $ - BATHROOM # 3 - Basement Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Tub $ - $ - $ - Shower $ - $ - $ - Tile $ - $ - $ - Vanity $ - $ - $ - Countertop $ - $ - $ - Plumbing Trim & Fixtures $ - $ - $ - Light Fixtures $ - $ - $ - Glass & Mirrors $ - $ - $ - Bath Accessories $ - $ - $ - TOTAL BATHROOM # 3 $ - $ - $ - **Please add itemization of work for additional kitchens or bathrooms** PHASE 11: OPTIONAL Original Amount Net Adjustments Adjusted Total Description Other $ - $ - $ - Fireplace $ - $ - $ - Final Cleaning Staging Stucco Closets General Contractor Fee $ - $ - $ - Finish Carpentry $ - $ - $ - Underpinning $ - $ - $ - Footers $ - $ - $ - Contingency $ - $ - $ - TOTAL OPTIONAL $ - $ - $ - Total Estimated Cost of Repairs $ - $ - $ -

Yes, the BRRRR (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) strategy is still alive in Philadelphia, though some aspects have become more challenging in recent years due to shifts in market dynamics.If you’re considering BRRRR in Philadelphia, areas with recent or upcoming developments, like parts of West Philadelphia, Brewerytown, and sections of Northeast Philadelphia, can still present good opportunities, but base everything on section 8 rents to see if the DSCR and LTV makes sense

Either do a cash out refinance or HELOC for the down payment on the other property.