I think that reaching that point always has to be a team effort - for her to agree to engage in the conversation and articulate specifics, and for you to be a good listener, be able to back up your ideas, and maybe agree to compromise on the riskier aspects, or at least wait until there is more of a track record.

Wow, that basically summed up everything I haven't been able to articulate in my responses in this thread.Thank you, K.

Gentlemen,Wonderful discussion with well articulated viewpoints.As much as I am also a math guy and build spreadsheet to help with the analysis, I have to side with Eric K. on this, that it is as much about guts as it is numbers.

Hey there,First off, I want to thank you for taking the time to read this post.Second, I want to provide some context of what I'm trying to achieve and hopefully that'll help articulate the advice a little better.A little bit about me:- I have never invested in real estate- I've been following the BiggerPockets ecosystem for about 6 months or so now- I've read some of the BiggerPockets Publishing books, but am still reading more and more- I have approximately $30k left over each month that I'd like to start utilizingMy goal is to reach $10k/mo in passive income starting with single-family buy and hold properties. 

Until you properly articulate this, even with $1,000,000.00, you still be in the woods..

Anybody have idea's to help me get the creative juices flowing on creating an environment where I can get attorneys receptive to helping me by finding a way to articulate helping them?

To which I promptly responded, everything was clearly articulated in the lease agreement and the renters addendum and if you so choose we can end the application process now and I can refund all of your deposit and first months rent.

Maybe I didn't articulate that perfectly, but when I brought it up everyone slammed me pretty hard and it turned into a troll-fest from the word go instead of trying to understand each other.Since hopefully everyone is ready to return to being respectful, maybe I can clarify a little bit.

My 3 month goal is to fully articulate a buy and hold business plan.

Real life examples seem to work best and those that have written a book on the subject of personal finance, financial independence, and real estate have thought through how to clearly articulate it to the masses.