Scott, I feel like we have to distinguish between the new person who honestly doesn’t know and may be being misled by the guru hype, and the hostile newbie who post after having already paid for a mentorship and either psychologically can’t “handle the truth” or is trying to recover his money already spent on the program by receiving compensation for “recruiting” other “innocents”.  

More hype than usefulness.

So who here as a bottle of Pappy, any age and is it worth all the hype.  

If you have to lure me there and then try that hard to hype me up then whatever you are selling isn't worth it. 

I am not a mortgage person but the "bait and switch" in the business is called "re-trading a loan".My contacts get this a lot.Some company touts they can do a rate for xx with little to no down.They collect a bunch of fees and then right about when closing they say something happened and have to move to a new higher rate.Don't believe the HYPE!!

That said, to give you an opinion on them without knowing a thing of them wouldn't be fair but I AM very disappointed with ALL the mentors and gurus out there to pretty much know how to talk and hype you up but provide zero actual value.What most of these "experts" do is they know how to talk to your desires.

Full of hype and questionable get rich schemes.

All of the others started with the hype of how much you can earn and how easy it was to do.

unfortunately there's all the hype on social media - plus some of the content from 5-10 years ago when the market was a lot more forgiving that is now out of date. 

It is the only venue I know of that does not use hype or hard sell tactics to get customers.