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All Forum Posts by: Jason Krick

Jason Krick has started 34 posts and replied 185 times.

Post: Using credit card to pay mortgage for less interest?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118
I'm assuming she meant to make the $1,000 mortgage payment with a credit card? My first question is: why would the $12,000 from the credit card go straight to principal? The mortgage itself is still amortized right? Now, if she meant making payments above and beyond the monthly $1,000 it would go to principal. I'm not in any ways an expert, but the way it is laid out doesn't make sense.

Post: Hoarder House Video Walkthrough - Post Eviction! (Aberdeen, WA)

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@Brandon Turner

I laughed as well!  I'm just glad that I'm not able to smell through my phone.

Post: Hoarder House Video Walkthrough - Post Eviction! (Aberdeen, WA)

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118
*looks at World's Worst Bathroom* "This will.... It's gonna need some work." That's about all you can say

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@Marc Woodward   @Victoria Creighton    @Oscar Prom

Thanks for the kind words!

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@Wendy Forbes

He was referred to me by an investor I admire and trust.  Part of me thinks it's easier to estimate when basically everything is being renovated.  Also, His estimate was done like my analysis--worst-case scenario.  If something took longer than expected, the price remained.  I'd also get a text asking me to choose something, one which would save money.  For instance, he texted me and said "Do you want single or double-hung Windows?  The estimate calls for double, but you can save $xxx by going with single.  Your choice."  Also, this house had a huge metal roof.  He told me"It's your metal.  You can pay me for my time and I will haul it to the recycling center.  Anything over my pay will be credited."  

We did have some unexpected items.  The water heater which looked good was shot.  And one section of plumbing sounded like a golf course sprinkler.  Code inspector wanted more fire-rated materials then we thought we needed. But, the credits offset most of it. 

One thing I will say is that my good fortune and luck at hiring him is not lost on me.  I'm extremely appreciative.  I'm sure that I'm spoiled now.  Hopefully, he's available for my next one, as he's already booked into next year.

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@David Groff

Welcome to BP!  It's a great site.  Get active.  Also, I read your Bio.  I'm not good at fixing stuff either.  I mean, I literally can not do any work with my hands.  That doesn't mean that you have to buy nice properties at full retail.  I don't need to know how to do everything.  I just need to know someone who is the expert.

Good luck as you go down the path!  Let me know if you need anything.

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@Samantha N.

 In my particular case, it wasn't "No money down".  I had to spend $25,000 before the bank would finance the first renovation draw.  Because I bought it so low, and added so much value, there was $25,000 left over from the amount the bank would loan on it.  So, I paid myself back.  This leaves me with $0 out of pocket on the property when it was all done.

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@Kristopher Hanks  @Richard Bradshaw

Thanks!

I just realized that I didn't give the area.  It is outiside of Reading, PA, but still in Betks County.  It's around the Hamburg, Shoemakersville, Bernville areas.  Near the I-78 corridor.

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

@Cowan Bucks

Hey! I actually live in Spring Township. Thanks and congrats on your purchase! I have the bank all the info on the properties I was looking at, I had my contractor walk the property with me twice before I got it under contract and give me an estimate. Also did the same with the electrician. I have him some analysis with low estimates on rent and ARV, and high estimates on expenses to make sure it worked. He ran whatever process they have, and we ran with it. The last hurdle is tenants, which I'm in the process of doing right now.

I will PM you a bit later with the details on area and contact info.

Post: First Deal!!! LLC, Commercial Loan and 401(k) Loan?!?!?!?

Jason KrickPosted
  • Investor
  • Reading, PA
  • Posts 196
  • Votes 118

Hello everyone!It is time for me to finally be able to post my first success story.I just finished rehabbing my first investment property, and I’m currently going through the process of placing my first tenant.I believe that my process was a bit unconventional, and may help other first-timers (Either by giving them some ideas on what to do, or if everyone hates my process, what not to do!)This may be a long post, but I thought it would be good to walk through everything step-by-step, and explain my thinking along the way.If you want to stick with me through it all, here we go:

I was not going to be getting a conventional mortgage for my first property for a number of reasons.First, I am still annoyed at the hoops I had to jump through to get a mortgage for my primary residence.Second, my liquid cash was on the lower end.Third, the properties that I would need to start out with would not be financeable anyway.Fourth, my DTI is on the high side, due to the decision that we made to take out a HELOC to complete interior improvements on my primary house.So, I decided that my path was going to be to form a single member LLC, and take a loan from my 401(k) at work to finance the down payment.Since I do not view the 401(k) loan as a long-term solution, I am treating like hard money, and pay it off ASAP.So, my first deal would be a flip, or a rental that was such a good deal, that I could re-fi out and pull all my cash out.I decided to reach out to the commercial lending department of the local credit union, which I am a member.The person I talked to (who became my lender) is fantastic.I told him what types of properties I was looking for, and that I'd look to turn them into rentals, or to flip them.I will never forget his response, which reminded me why I love this credit union.He said:"Typically, the deals you are talking about are much smaller than the deals we like to do.However, we also realize that you can not get to that level unless someone helps you get there.So, if the numbers make sense, we will see if any of our products fit."Awesome!

I began scouring foreclosures, REO's, and craigslist.Eventually, I came across an SFH REO that had been on the market for 15-16 months.It was initially listed at $89,900, and was down to $39,900 by the time I looked at it.It clearly had plumbing and a kitchen for an un-permitted 2nd unit upstairs.The conversion from SFH to duplex would be easy.It basically needed everything.I decided to put an offer in.I felt like I could make the numbers work at $25,000

For those still reading, here was the process:

  • My initial offer was $10,000 w/ $500 EMD all cash.They countered at $35,000
  • I went up to $15,000 and they stayed put (oops, over-played it)
  • So, I counter at $17,500—best and final offer.They counter down to $25,000 w/ $2500 EMD
  • I email my lender, and let him know that I am at $25,000 (he knows that was the target was), and told him that I wasn’t done and wanted to bring him down further.He says “Let me get this straight.You got them down from $40,000 to $25,000 which is 37.5% off asking price, and you want to get them down further???”I say “Yep”.
  • When the bank came back with the increase in EMD from $500 to $2500, I asked my agent if that was because they wanted to increase the likelihood that I would not walk.She said that she believed that was the case.So, I believe at this point, ensuring I close is more important than the sales price.Plus I already stated that $17,500 was best and final.
  • So, I countered back at $17,500 with $2500 EMD.It was accepted.My lender couldn't believe it.

After closing, the bank and I discussed financing options.Since it ended up being all my cash for the purchase, we decided on a construction to permanent loan.We got an appraisal value for its as-is condition and it's ARV.When analyzing the property, I tried to be conservative and used a $120,000 ARV.As-is condition came back at $60,000, and ARV came back at $145,000.Comps were had to come by, as this is a small, rural town and there hadn't been many homes sold recently.The bank would ultimately lend me up to 75% of the ARV, or $101,000 in 4 draws.The loan would be interest only during the renovation, and convert to a mortgage when completed.The loan is 10 year fixed at 6.25% with a 25 year amortization.Projected costs:

  • Electrical work--$5,300
  • Renovations--$64,000
  • Zoning Hearing for approval for conversion--$1,500
  • Insurance, permits, property taxes, and other holding costs--$2000
  • Total Budget--$73,800

Renovation took just under 3 months, with virtually no surprises.The electrician came in at budget, and the renovations had $4,000 in overages.With the purchase price, loan costs, and renovations, I am right at $101,000.I also believe that if I chose to get a new appraisal, it would come in much higher, as since the first one, a few houses in the area have sold and would support a higher value.So here’s a quick run-down on the numbers:

All-in price:$101,000

Value:$145,000

Income:$850/month x 2=$1700

Monthly Expenses:

  • Maintenance 10%:$170
  • Capex 10%:$170
  • Vacancy 5%:85
  • Electric:$20
  • Trash:$55
  • Insurance:$100
  • Property Taxes:$185.33
  • Mortgage:$666.27
  • Total:$1451.60

Monthly Cashflow--$248.40

Money in the deal—ZERO DOLLARS

Yes, I know that I did not account for property management in my numbers.The reason is that there is industry moving into the area, and higher paying jobs as well.I believe that rents will increase and support property management down the road, if I choose.If that doesn’t happen, well then I’m stuck managing forever or selling it at some point, but it is a risk I am willing to take at this point.

Is this deal a home run?For me it is.Sure, if I went conventional and put 20% down at 4.5%, it would look amazing.But that wasn’t an option for me at the current time.I will have more deals in the future where I can go that route.For now, this gets me in the game, builds a relationship with a commercial lender, gives me experience, and puts a few hundred dollars a month in my pocket, while having none of my own money in the deal.I’m damn proud of myself, because I passed on other deals that I knew would work, but not in the way that I wanted in the present.I needed to pull all of my money out, and I succeeded.Looking forward to placing tenants and get the place producing.