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All Forum Posts by: Lane Kawaoka

Lane Kawaoka has started 286 posts and replied 4078 times.

Post: Aloha From Hawaii🌺

Lane Kawaoka
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Turnkey rentals on the mainland don't hit 1% RV anymore so might as well bleed cf in Hawaii. 

Post: Is anyone doing land development of multifamily on here

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We found some properties from retiring land developers who did not want to take the project 3-5 years longer.

Post: Questions to ask Turnkey Providers

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Hey Jay! Looks like you're starting where many new investors do, well those with at least $20-30,000 for a down payment on a rental property. Gotta understand, like most folks these forums or REIA clubs, not everyone has that 20-30 grand lying around. So they start with wholesaling or more active real estate gigs.

 Turnkey properties are a solid entry point. I started investing in those back in 2012, diving into markets like Birmingham, Atlanta, and Indianapolis. Back then, I snagged properties at $85,000 that rented for just under $1000 a month.

Fast forward a decade, and those same properties are going for $130,000 to $140,000, with rent not seeing the same spike—maybe $1200 today, if you're lucky. The easy entry into turnkey rentals isn't what it used to be. The NFL analogy - the hole closes!

I've shifted towards syndications and private placements. It's a more mature take on the BRRRR (Buy, Rehab, Rent, Refinance, Repeat) strategy without the hands-on hassle. Duy-and-hold strategies in tertiary markets like Birmingham just aren't cutting it anymore.

Turnkey Providers? Or as some might say, marketers. They jack up prices by $5,000 to $20,000 to make their cut. With today's slim margins, bypassing these middlemen might just mean working with a reliable real estate broker instead.

Everyone starts somewhere! If you have any specific questions reach out.

Post: Ashcroft capital - Paused Distributions

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Current market conditions, especially with cap rates having risen from the low 4s to over 5-5.5%, making values of properties down ~30%.

This is caused by recent shifts 0 => 5.5% in the Fed Rate (quickest time in history). To illustrate, a property initially valued at $60 million might see its worth decrease by 30%, settling at around $45 million.

Basics on Property Evaluation:

To figure out how much your commercial property is worth, you can use the following simple math equation. You take the money you make (NOI) and divide it by something called the cap rate. The cap rate tells you what people are willing to pay for properties like yours.

So, the equation looks like this:

Value of Property = Net Operating Income / Cap Rate

Imagine your shopping center makes $100,000 a year after you pay all your costs (that's your NOI). And let's say the cap rate in your area is 0.05 (or 5%). You can figure out how much your shopping center is worth like this:

Value of Property = $100,000 / 0.05 = $2,000,000

But here's the tricky part: You don't get to decide the cap rate, it's decided by the market, kind of like how fashion trends decide what clothes are cool. If the cap rate goes up because the market changes, like from 0.05 (5%) to 0.06 (6%), even if you're still making $100,000, your property's value changes.

So with a cap rate of 6%, it looks like this:

Value of Property = $100,000 / 0.06 = $1,666,666.67

Even though you're making the same amount of money, your asset's value went down because the cap rate went up. It's important to remember that you have control over making your shopping center nicer and more profitable, but you can't control the cap rate, which can make your property's value go up or down without you changing a thing!

It's a sobering situation that no one has faced since 2009 faced with it firsthand. The stark reality is that a 30% market downturn, again caused by an unprecedented surge in interest rates – the highest in four decades – can profoundly affect market values. Such a scenario doesn't just bring values down by 30% but also places substantial pressure on property holders, especially when debt refinancing looms on the horizon, compelling action at these reduced market values.

Here is the double whammy that increases the cash in refinance needed, the capital markets (bank lending) terrain has tightened greatly. Banks, previously granted loans at 70% of the property's value, are now capping at 50%. This adjustment demands a greater cash input at the point of refinancing. This is the debt renewal tidal wave everyone is talking about.

From a personal perspective, this period has been particularly taxing. Having invested significantly alongside our investors, often being among the first to contribute when things got difficult. Witnessing the dissipation of substantial (multiple seven figures) personal capital, especially in efforts to steer through these turbulent times, has been a sobering experience. It became very apparent in Q4 2023 as the market cap rates continued to deteriorate even more as pricing has not found a firm ground.

Post: Apartment + 🎥

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Post: Apartment + 🎥

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Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $20,000,000
Cash invested: $10,000,000

Post: Commercial and Business Insurance

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You need an insurance broker than going to the standard state farm, allstate people. You don't want to work with those.

When I had rentals I used ed babkis or Ross diversified.

Post: Looking for a turnkey company to help with real estate investing

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@Jonathan Leung

Hey Jonathan, I started with turnkey rentals between 2012 and 2015, in a similar way to your situation. And honestly, they were anything but "turnkey."

That said if you're new to investing, they can be a solid start, just like they were for me. But here's the catch: the places I bought back then were decent, unlike the triad area you're looking at. That place is a challenge, man. Declining population, super cold weather – not ideal.

I've got doubts about the viability of turnkey rentals there, especially in the next 3-5 years. The numbers just aren't adding up like they used to. On top of that, working with turnkey providers or marketers isn't cheap. They slap on fees ranging from $1,500 to $5,000. With already slim margins, it's getting tougher.

The real estate game is never easy. I eventually shifted to syndications and private placements as my net worth grew. It depends on where your net worth stands (not that you should share that here). There could be other avenues for you to explore. luck out there!

Post: NEW Income Fund LIVE Q&A

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Post: NEW Income Fund LIVE Q&A

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