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All Forum Posts by: Lane Kawaoka

Lane Kawaoka has started 286 posts and replied 4078 times.

Post: New to Out of State Investing

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@Annwar Matani be careful with BRR you can magnify returns but what comes more returns implicitly comes with more risk. I personally just bought buy hold and did not do much value add my first 7 years investing.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/7810/90789-the-co...

Post: Asset protection setup prior to first investment

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If you're a doctor, chances are you're already an accredited investor based on your income, rather than your net worth when you're starting out. So, being a passive limited partner (LP) might align better with your situation, saving you from potential liability coming from the investment or asset. 

When I began my investment journey, I started with small rental properties. At that time, my net worth was pretty low, and as an engineer my income wasn't substantial either so did not make more than 200k/year. Also, the risk of liability wasn't a significant concern coming from my profession.

However, if you're considering investing in rental properties, setting up LLCs for each property could be a wise move since you are in a high liability profession and little rentals have much more risk than being an LP.

Reach out if you have any specific questions.

Post: Infinite banking system

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I think its better for those 500k-1M in net worth. Under that threshold you should be investing in deals/rentals. There is a bunch of fees and that's what you want to avoid in the beginning. If you do don't do more than 20-30% insurance... get a 90/10 policy.

Post: Choosing a Long-Distance Rental Property: Where to Invest?

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@Tom Blue don't know if you have any 10 acre land for sale. We build 100+ unit apartments in HSV. We have a few sites now and are looking to expand. 

Post: Has anyone worked with Tardus Wealth Strategies?

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Using HELOCs or IBC to pay off debt (simple vs amortized debt) method is effective, yet investing in assets such as rental properties or syndications might be a more strategic use of available funds than debt repayment. What I see is more non accredited or lower net worth who are burdened by debt will be drawn to these types of strategies. However, for those with a net worth exceeding $1 million, it's often more advantageous to focus on wealth accumulation rather than debt elimination. Repaying debt is not necessarily aligned with achieving financial freedom - true FI is cashflow coming from many assets - hopefully this illustrates how paying off debt drains your liquidity for down payments of money to buy said assets.

Post: Do you really need IRR or NPV in rental property investing?

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IRR is the Internal Rate of Return can often get confused with the return on investment and cash on cash because over the period of one year, all these percentages are the same. IRR specifically takes the time value of money and calculates what the average return is over a period of time and annualizes it. Say you put that 10k in and made 7% per year for 5 years and compounded it each year that equate to a 7% IRR for those 5 years precluded that your 10k was returned to you at the end of the period. When looking at real estate we know that very seldomly does an asset perfectly return an exact percentage and typically the asset grows in value over the time period. This calculation can take that expected growth and growth in cash flows combined into one metric to look at the investment.

Personally, I don't really look at IRR because it is a highly manipulated metric. Showing an unrealistic refinance in year 2 instead of year 3-4 will likely turn a 13% IRR deal to 16-17%. Magic! The best way to explaining this is for you to download an IRR calculator spreadsheet or build your own simple one and play around with one.

For what its worth most deals I deem meeting minimal IRR standards is 13-15% but you have to dig a little deeper to uncover the real placements of cashflows and capitalization events... and then dig even deeper to verify the assumptions such as occupancy, rent increases per year, and what reversion cap rate was used.

Again I don't look for IRR cause its manipulated a lot instead I look at total return on a 5 year basis. Its like sampling a NFL players 40 yard dash but for apartment underwriting. I'm sure there are other ways to do it but weather its right or wrong... I try to be consistent and I'm just trying to go in and pick the best in the field.

BP article - https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/7810/95294-what-i...

Post: LLC vs Personal Ownership?

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Everyone thinks they're bulletproof with an LLC, especially if it's in Wyoming or Nevada, right? But let me tell you, nothing is truly bulletproof. If your net worth starts climbing over few million, it's wise to think about adding some offshore flavor to your strategy. Why? Because of the U.S. Constitution's Full Faith and Credit Clause. It puts a cap on how much protection purely domestic LLCs can offer.

Now, I'm not here to bash LLCs. I use them. They're a solid base to start from once your net worth is 500k-1M+. But there's a lot of stuff not being talked about. Misinformation, by lawyers to scare you to do an LLC and pay them 1-5k to do it? Or maybe it's just a lack of understanding about what happens in court, things like jurisdiction and legal nexus, and how state rights come into play.

Let's talk California cause I see you in that State. It's a hotspot because of its wealth and litigation. Here's where the confusion often starts: charging orders. They're supposed to limit an LLC member's legal responsibility to just the LLC. It depends on what and where you're holding assets.

Say you're a California resident with California real estate, but you set up a Wyoming LLC because someone said it was a good idea. Surprise, you've basically turned that Wyoming LLC into a California one because you're doing business in California. You'll end up paying California's franchise tax and, if there's a lawsuit, California law applies, not Wyoming's.

This applies anywhere. Own an asset in Ohio and put it in a Wyoming LLC? The same principle. You have to register your out-of-state LLC in any state you do business, including paying any necessary taxes. This is just basic case law.

A great example is the Indian Palms Country Club Association vs. Anchor Bank case from 2015. It lays out what you need to meet to avoid the corporate veil being pierced. If your LLC is registered and paying taxes in California, you've just given California jurisdiction over it. Plain and simple.

And if you're thinking about anonymity with your Wyoming LLC, think again. In today's world, nothing is truly anonymous. Once a lawsuit kicks off, there's this thing called legal discovery. You'll have to declare all your assets. Lie, and you're looking at perjury, which is a one-way ticket to a lot of legal trouble.

This anonymity thing? It's more about privacy than disappearing off the grid. But if someone's determined, they'll find your info. It's not hard with today's tech. A lot of firms sell the dream of becoming a ghost with an anonymous LLC, but if you get sued, you're not just going to vanish. You'll face a default judgment and end up paying the max because you didn't defend yourself.

And from a tax angle—remember the Corporate Transparency Act of January 2021? It's there to prevent hiding behind LLCs for shady reasons, including tax evasion. Now, you have to include Social Security numbers on K-1s, even for LLCs. So, the IRS is on this too.

Asset protection needs to be tax neutral. Hiding assets? Bad idea. IRS and judges will come after you for fraudulent transfers. You have to set up your asset protection early, before problems arise, and make sure it grows with you. And yes, even the IRS is cracking down on asset disclosures. So, have a strong, transparent system where you don't need to hide anything.

Most investors move to syndications as a passive LP and therefore gets away from the liability issues surrounding owning direct ownership in rentals. I did turnkeys from 2009-2015 which I went accredited investor status. Today i see most LPs under 2M net worth sign in their own personal name without a LLC.

Post: Tax Deductions for Non-Professional

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You can easily get PAL or passive losses days by investing in LTR or some people will go into equipment deals to take advantage of section 179 deductions as sort of a synthetic way of getting PALs. You don't need REPS for this.

Post: How to find a good area to invest in?

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I posted here earlier today. Might check out the response and reach out to the OP.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/1173190-new-r...

Let me know if you need anything.

Post: New RE investor strategy - invest OOS for cash flow or house hack in HCOL area?

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Hey James, welcome to BiggerPockets. Sounds like you've got some capital to start with, which is awesome. A lot of folks here might not even have that $10-20k to play with, so they lean towards more hands-on investment strategies just so you are aware of that.

I started back in 2012, snapping up turnkey rentals out of state while I was living in Seattle which is a primary market (no cashflow) like San Diego. The times were different then too, I was picking up properties for around $80,000 with rents at $900. Places like Birmingham, Atlanta, and Indianapolis were pretty solid areas too. But man, have those prices jumped – almost by a third, while rents... not so much +10%.

Looking at turnkey properties now? Caution is the word. These turnkey marketers – or promoters, same difference – they usually bump up the property price by $5k to $20k to make their cut. Not exactly sustainable with the way prices have skyrocketed.

Honestly, bypassing a turnkey marketer might be your best bet. Hope you find a real estate broker savvy in "non-owner" occupied properties. Good luck there!

After getting my feet wet with one, I should've pivoted, but nope – I went on to buy 11 of these turnkey. Learned my lesson when I offloaded all my rentals between 2017 and 2018, moving into private placements and syndications for better scale and asset protection.

Oh, and there's someone else on this forum asking similar questions. Might be worth linking up. 

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/12/topics/1173359-how-t...

It's cool connecting with folks on the same rung of the ladder. Made some long-term friends here, and while we're all into different investments now, those connections are priceless.

Let me know if you need anything specific.