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All Forum Posts by: Vlad B.

Vlad B. has started 14 posts and replied 88 times.

Hi BP Community, need your advice.
I'm closing in on my property sale in early June. One of the stipulations for the sale was to provide effort to remove 2 problem tenants in the building. One tenant was removed and the last tenant is S8. My PM put in a 60 day to vacate notice and the HUD tenant never moved out. Tenant promised she was moving 2 days ago. Tenant is saying new apartment isn't ready until the end of June. Terms were not to turn the units and leave them vacant for the new owner.

If this tenant doesn't move out, I risk postponing the close date, and losing money on the mortgage every month this situation drags on. Buyer's agent suggested "Cash to move out" but I'm not exactly sure how that matters if the tenant is HUD and needs a new HUD apt. HUD tenant's rent is under rented by $500 per month and HUD re-evaluated her unit and lowered the HUD payment by $7 per month. If they were paying market rent, things may be slightly more palatable.

How can I get this moving with the buyer so that I can sell the unit in June? 

If I'm selling a property right now, is it worthwhile to hold off until 2H 2024 when fees go down? Property commission is around $23K not including closing costs.

Does anyone have an idea when this will actually be passed and implemented?

Quote from @Joel Owens:

It's all about what kind of life you want and what kind of risk you want to take with your investments.

Someone can be worth 50 million or 1 billion the number does not matter as much as are they living the life they want and happy?

I say this because some syndicators sometimes like to take money from non-accredited investors and newly accredited investors. Those types of investors statistically can be more highly manipulated. They get sucked in by promises of high returns.

Alot of it is bullsh*t and theory. In NNN for example a weak tenant could put out a 9 cap and sign a lease for 15 years. If they go out in 2 years then did you get the 9 cap? You sure didn't. You got a lot of re-leasing and other costs for money losers.

Some syndicators are nothing more than glorified property managers disguised as GP's praying some of the deals work out and limp along.

The newer accredited investors tend to get sucked in by the pref and do not study the deal as much. They want that money working day 1.

Many of my investors making millions per year or higher at their job or business are more concerned about safety of the investment and the hassle factor ( variables in a syndicators pro-forma that could go wrong and the returns could not materialize like they hoped ).

Someone mentioned office. Personally can't stand regular office I do not care how cheap it is UNLESS it is sitting on valuable land and I figure in existing building demo costs to re-adapt the dirt to a higher and better use than it becomes appealing. Years and decades of your life you never get back. Even if someone makes 5 million but it took away time wise one of the best decades of your life was it worth it? Not to me.

I see the care free go lucky hippie types that just chill all week. My massage guy is one of them. Little money but he has a great time and makes the most of experiences. Then on the other end of spectrum I see the work aholics with their 60 hour or more weeks with money and migraines but little to no fun in life.

Then there is that tiny percentage that has the secret sauce where they work so many hours and cap it but also make a lot of money and get the most enjoyment out of everyday. Now someone could say they enjoy working so they find joy in working 70hr weeks. To that I would counter that THEY might enjoy that but not their family, friends, their health etc. would all suffer.

Everyone's life and personal journey is different. I actually find it interesting to study other people and see how they think, what they value, and why.

As a syndicator myself I would rather do 10 great deals a year than 17 and have 4 be duds, 9 okay, and 4 huge winners. You just create a lot of busy work and drama in the name of scale. I don't care who the syndication group is nobody likely anticipated a 300 basis point hike in rates so fast that went up like a rocket. Everyone in life has adversity it's how you handle and respond to it that matters.  

Bolded the last point. Other end of the spectrum are Syndicator deals available now that are buying MFH at a low cost should balance out your portfolio. 

Buying, managing yourself or a PM, turns, evictions, etc = stress
Buying a syndication deal that you have no control over = stress


However, can your portfolio benefit from having some owned units and some syndicated units?

Post: What is a better strategy today?

Vlad B.Posted
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Quote from @Stuart Udis:

Neither option seems to take advantage of the market conditions. What's missing here is the fact you are asking us for advice on which investment opportunity is best for you when we don't know your strengths, skillsets or time availability. These factors might make one investment option or strategy more appealing or successful for one person but not necessarily another.

Fair points. I have been investing since 2019 and have 6 doors currently. I sold 2 doors in 2023. I had turnover, evictions, tenants needing support from the state, and vacancy issues last two years. I rely on property management as I'm Out of State. Option A.

I'm invested in 6 other buildings with groups of people. This is 100% passive and 100% not liquid. Syndicate marketing is flying in from all over the place with a decent pitch. We're buying undervalued properties in a decent growing market where we can do a value-added play. Option B.

My goal is 25 "units" meaning buildings in pooled investment or my building units, by 2025. This strategy has stalled drastically in 2023 to 12 currently. The other part of this goal is to cash flow $10K gross a month. This has stalled as I'm unable to secure a quality building post-inspection. My net cash flow has declined drastically to negative last two years and I'm contemplating continued investment in Option A.

I know I'm not the only one here experiencing this market.

Post: What is a better strategy today?

Vlad B.Posted
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I have been looking in my local area. I have this dream of an STR or MTR locally where I can manage a property with a lakefront myself and go fishing/boating/biking etc when it's not rented. I have a great handyman and prices in those areas are not outrageous at this time. Plan C sounds like it will bring a lot more joy to my life than A or B.

What's holding me back you may ask. I've had nothing but tenant and property management issues for the MFH units I own. I now have a good PM that has them all leased out and under control.

Post: What is a better strategy today?

Vlad B.Posted
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@Bruce Woodruff your ideas are very cool. I know nothing about horses or strip malls but I'm open to learning. Right now I'm 50/50 on syndicates and rentals owned. I understand both sides and there are stress factors to each.

JD's comment has a lot of validity and is a very real concern.

Post: What is a better strategy today?

Vlad B.Posted
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Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Why are those your only options? I don't like either one of them....

Those are the two options I have been working with. Is there something else that I am missing?

Post: What is a better strategy today?

Vlad B.Posted
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My team is in a competitive market with low inventory for Multi-Family. I'm not looking to buy for 5% over asking. That's just what it takes to get a deal approved.

Post: What is a better strategy today?

Vlad B.Posted
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What does the BP community think is a better strategy right now?
A) Buying a small multifamily in a market with low inventory for $50-75K down and getting a rate in the 7-8% range. Being OOS with a property manager watching over your property. Potentially buying the property 5% or more above actual value. The property is turnkey mostly with minor repairs and potentially below rent tenants.

B) Buying a syndicate where you are a limited partner with 5% return and potentially a 20% IRR. The property is being sold in a big MSA in Texas and purchased under what the original Syndicate purchased it for. This is a value add play in a big market where renovations and other features added will increase rents.

What does BP think?

Quote from @Laura Stayton:
Quote from @Lisa Martin:

Section 8 tenant in Tennessee is behind on rent.  I purchased the property with her lease in place 6 months ago.  Section 8 is supposed to pay about half of her rent.  I'm trying to get used to the timing of when the different payments come in.  Now I'm not getting paid!   My property manager isn't providing information about if the housing authority will catch up her rent or what is going on.  I would have fired them but we are in the thick of this now.  I think there might be paperwork to get her more assistance but I have no idea and the total past due keeps climbing !  $4112.50 behind so far.   What do I do?  I need to recover these losses.  Evict now?   Or is there something I'm missing from the complicated section 8 process. 

Here is what propertyware software tells me: 

lease dates 3/1/23-2/29/24 ,  rent amount $1325 ,  last payment 12/21/23 ,   $4112.50 past due

FED FILED - Active03/01/202302/29/2024$1,325.0012/21/2023$4,112.50

Your property manager should be able to tell you exactly what's going on.  If the housing authority stopped paying then it could be because for many reasons but my best guess would be it failed the annual inspection and work is needed.  If repairs are not done they will abate rent after a time.  I would put in writing a request for all communication from the property manager including the caseworker name for the tenant and name and phone number of your tenant (if you don't have) and start contacting them directly to find out what's going on if your PM company isn't being responsive.

Good luck.

Don’t wait for your property manager to do something. Call section 8 and find out the details yourself.