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All Forum Posts by: Vincent Phan

Vincent Phan has started 5 posts and replied 24 times.

Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

I will jump on board with the others. Analyze whether this home qualifies as a "good" rental. Just because it can rent for more than the mortgage does not mean it's a good investment.

Here's a guide that describes what good cash flow looks like and how to analyze a property.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/...


 Thanks Nathan. I think it's a pretty good rental. The #s definitely make sense. Our goal is to trim off some taxes this year and wondering if putting this for rent can actually help with our taxes. 

Quote from @JD Martin:

You should always consider first whether a property even makes a good rental, whether you lived there or not. Assuming this property would make a good rental, I would next ask if it would provide a good return. You have 50% equity but that's just a ratio. If the house is only worth $50k, you've got $25k if you sold it yourself. You can't do a whole lot with 25k. 

Assuming it's an average house, maybe $300k, and you've got $150k in it, now you're just using that money to live in a fancier house. You'll have a little smaller mortgage - maybe $700-1000 less - so how does that compare to the cash flow you'd bring in if you left the cash there? If it's going to be dead capital anyway, you might as well leave it where the return is highest. 


 Hi JD - we have about 200k equity in this house. our payment is $1800/month all in (tax + mortage @2.8% 30y+ insurance). The market rental rate is about $2700-$3000/m. I think we can get $2800 or even 3k since our finishes are higher end. Based on $2800/m rent. I think the numbers definitely make sense to rent it. 


We're just more concern about the tax. we want to trim off as much taxes as possible this year. We are looking at other 3-4 units investment property as well to take advantage of the force depreciation method.

Quote from @Henry Clark:

Check with your tax accountant.  Recommend you sale your house.  If this is your primary residence, if you live two consecutive years any time during a 5 year period the gain is tax free.  If you have it in a good showing condition recommend you sale and do t rent. 

Hi Henry!

 Our mortgage + tax + insurance is about $1800/m and we can rent it out for about $2800/m. It cashflow definitely make sense here. I think we are more concern about the amount of taxes we have to pay from our w2 jobs. We are trying to buy an investment property and use force depreciation method to cut down our taxes this year (around $100k worth of it). I wonder if we can rent this out and take advantage of the same tax incentive...

Hi all,

Do anyone know if there's tax incentive when it comes to renting out your primary resident? We lived in for 3 years and already done all the remodeling. Now we need to upgrade to bigger house due to growing family. Can we take advantage of the same tax incentive as buying a new rental unit(s)? like force depreciation? We have about 50% equity. any input is welcomed!

Thanks,

Hi all,
I'm in a multiple offers situation with a bank owned single family house. Listed for 250k and we offered 231k. They want best and final offer in 10 days. What do you guys think? is it worth it?

List price: $250k

Tax: $6743

Reno cost: $25k max 

Out of pocket total investment: $41,240 ( includes downpayment acquisition cost, loan costs rehab cost)

Potential Rent Comps: $2200-$3000 in the area. $3000 was the highest and it was total rehabbed with utilities included

After repair value: $350-$420k (the comps high is actually 450 but that's done with high quality materials it look like)

We can secure 5% downpayment loan as 1st time home buyer at 4.25% int rate.

Below is my calculation based on 355k sale price (very conservative) and $2500 per month in rent which is average in this area.

355k sales sale
5% commison commission
5000 propert taxes property tax
3000-4500 seller side closing seller side closing
$327500 net net
$ (237,827.00)loan balance after 1 year rent
$ 4,957.31 cash flow
$ 327,500.00 net sale price
$ (41,240.00)total cash invested
$ 53,390.31 net profit (after 1 year)

asking the million dollars question :) i'll be lurking here brotherman

Originally posted by @Calvin Ozanick:

Personally, I think your calculations are a bit alarming because I do not see any reserve savings. When I do my property calculations, I look for about 8-12% CoC ROI AFTER all expenses, taxes, mortgage P&I and reserves. This way I know if the s**t hits the fan that everything in my portfolio is covered. I typically set aside 30% of my calculations for PM, CapEx + Maintenance, and Vacancy. I think you could find a safer deal if you are strict with your search. The worst thing you can do is buy your first property and not have it be the right deal. That could spoil your experience for good.

That is true. I get the same feel from Jaysen as well. I'll just move on. Seems like my only option really is 3 flats. or non rehabbed 2flats.

Originally posted by @Alan Beron:

Vincent, depending on the neighborhood that doesn't seem too bad for the current Chicago market. Since the property was recently gut rehabbed, I don't believe your repair & CapEx allowances need to be as high as Jaysen indicates, and if you'll be managing yourself that's another 10% you don't need to factor in. His other comments seem very on point though--I'd estimate ~$1000/year for water/garbage. You may also be able to bring in a bit of extra income from the basement, check out Neighbor, which bills itself as the Airbnb of storage.

 great idea. thank you! already learning so much :)

Originally posted by @Steven Foster Wilson:

@Vincent Phan I share your same thoughts, as the reason I am still investing in Columbus. @David Greene 's book https://www.amazon.com/Long-Di... Long distance RE investing  is a good starter read to get into the mindset of OOS investing.

Also if you do ever think of investing OOS in Columbus I'd love to help you with any local information I can!

Thank you! that would be awesome!

Originally posted by @Steven Foster Wilson:

@Vincent Phan for my campus rental 0%. I actually rent that almost 8 months in advance of the actual start date (high demand on OSU campus). The properties down in Hungarian village, not sure since I just purchased, but the owner figured a typical 5% vacancy.

wow. maybe i should invest in columbus instead lol but the idea of investing out of state still scares me.