Quote from @Carlos Lopes:
yea I have noticed the overall STR performance is down for the area, but I'm trying to really see the pros and cons for long term holding. I know there's a lot of expansion happening on okaloosa island, to include the new bridge, and new outlets they're looking to build. So I'm hoping that's a future boost in the economy there. Occupancy rates seem to be ok hovering around 62%, so maybe with some really amazing managing I can expect about the same? I've come to terms that currently I'd probably break even once I move and turn it into a STR, but I would hate for it to be a break even forever. So I'm hoping that after a little while I could refinance again for lower rates and hopefully have more cash flow. It's all really hard to tell as I'm still learning a lot in the process. I'm still going through the learning what questions to ask phase.
1) profits and losses?
2) STR allowed?
3) assessment fees and costs?
4) warrantable?
5) occupancy rates?
6) comps?
Currently two units I’m looking at in the same complex, one is a 1 bed and other is a 3 bed. They gross ~51k and ~60k respectively. So I’m trying to figure out if paying the extra 200k for a 3 bed is even worth the investment since annual gross is so close. But those numbers are also all based on people using Vacasa as their manager, which I hear they’re mediocre at best. But at a glance I noticed people average around 10% of total home price as far as annual gross income, so a $500k home is grossing about $50k a year. Is this about what most of you have experienced in the area? If so, how do you break above that?
Overall, I’m loving the learning process and am getting close to a pull the trigger point. Just want to really make sure I’ve asked all the right questions:
You're definitely asking the right questions. While no one can predict interest rates with complete certainly, they have already come down from the highs 7-8 months ago. So a re-fi situation will definitely be a good option in the not so far future. I, personally, have a owner-financing loan on a property I recently bought that I plan to refinancing once the rates are lower and to get better cashflow just on that.
You mentioned that you are considering Destin West. Great complex. I used to own Heron 505 (3 bedroom unit on the Bayside). Sold it a couple years ago. The person who bought it used VA financing. I know that Sandpiper and Pelican at Destin West might be harder to do with VA because of how their covenants were structured by the initial builder. Heron and Osprey should be ok for VA. I'm not 100 % sure about Gulfside.
Pluses for Destin West: great amenities, very popular with guests, spacious and updated units, good rental potential.
Some minuses: HOA is pretty high, beach access can be an issue for some guests. Beach facing units and complexes tend to get higher rent, even though the amenities at Destin West are superior. The Bayside units are very nice, but the ones at Gulfside, which is older, can be pretty dated and have odd layouts. Also, with the new beach regulations in Okaloosa County, the beach section where the beach service for Destin West can be set up has been narrowed significantly and the Island Hotel amenities and beach area are no longer available to Destin West guests to use. That makes the beach area tight for the many guests that Destin West can hold as an overall complex.
If you have any further questions, feel free to message me if I can help. There are a number of other complexes on the Island that are also VA approved.