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All Forum Posts by: Tori Applegate

Tori Applegate has started 7 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Contractor & Prop. management Recommendations

Tori ApplegatePosted
  • Realtor
  • Woodstock, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8

Hi everyone! I have secured a deal in Montgomery, AL and am looking for an investor friendly contractor. So far I’m not having great luck. Please recommend someone to me. I would really appreciate it!

Quote from @Chris Seveney:
Quote from @Tori Applegate:

Hi, So I'm looking to do some rehabs in the panhandle of Florida. I need a lender, preferably, who doesn't have a seasoning time needed on funds. A lot of lenders I've looked at also seem to require 20-30k in the bank. I don't have that liquid. I'd like to use business credit cards to fund down payment and other costs involved. I can use Plastiq to write checks directly to the title company or whoever. I'd like to be able to keep the property as a short term rental at the end so then I would have to refi it, which should be easier since I'll be forcing more value into it with the rehab. Just trying to get started. Any suggestions/recommendations as far as lenders or my game plan?


 My recommendation would be to bring on an equity partner before ever using business credit cards. This could turn out to be a recipe for disaster with delays and potential longer terms to sell or refinance. Unless the deal is a grand slam, I view way too much risk in using such high interest short term borrowing from a credit card.


 I can absolutely see that. Yeah, if there was someone I trusted to be that partner maybe I would. Honestly I don't know enough about structuring that and how to go about qualifying someone. Also, being new despite how researched I am on STRs, who would want to partner with me on my first deal?

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Tori Applegate

just curious, have you done this before?

no offense but I always worry when folks propose using this much leverage.


No, I haven't done this before. This would be my first one. I'm doing my best to work this out beforehand so I don't over leverage. I'm ok with a higher risk. I know that area very well and know a STR will do good there as it will be close to 2 amazing beaches. I forgot to mention all the credit cards I would be using have 0% interest and I wouldn't be using more than 40% ever because I don't want to tank myself. That part would mostly be for the down payment. Rehab would go through the lender.

Hi, So I'm looking to do some rehabs in the panhandle of Florida. I need a lender, preferably, who doesn't have a seasoning time needed on funds. A lot of lenders I've looked at also seem to require 20-30k in the bank. I don't have that liquid. I'd like to use business credit cards to fund down payment and other costs involved. I can use Plastiq to write checks directly to the title company or whoever. I'd like to be able to keep the property as a short term rental at the end so then I would have to refi it, which should be easier since I'll be forcing more value into it with the rehab. Just trying to get started. Any suggestions/recommendations as far as lenders or my game plan?

Post: Negotiating Advice for Newbies

Tori ApplegatePosted
  • Realtor
  • Woodstock, GA
  • Posts 20
  • Votes 8
Quote from @Evan M.:

Wondering if someone can give some newbies advice. We are looking at making our first purchase of a single-family home rental property out of state. The particular home is $200 K and we could supply 20% down. We just both quit our full-time jobs to run a business we started in 2020. The private investor we’re working with understands this predicament and that we couldn’t get traditional funding via mortgage or heloc through a traditional bank due to being newly self-employed with a young business, despite our excellent credit. He suggested that if we brought him a deal, he would bankroll it for us and then we could refinance him out of the deal in two years. He suggested that the two years of rental payments plus the continued success of our business would be enough for mortgage lenders to consider lending to us in the future. Our goal is to grow our buy-and-hold portfolio. We’ve grown close to this individual and feel that he’s giving us a good deal at 6% with 20% down. However he’s asking us for more details about the terms we are looking for. Of course when we’ve been running the BiggerPockets calculator we’ve been entering 30 year terms. But this particular investor is used to lendering for short term fix and flip investing at 12%. Conservatively, this deal would break even/cash flow $150 at 30 years. If we were to suggest a 15 year term, it would be a negative $300 cash flow situation (including variable expenses in the equation). And obviously if we did a shorter term it would be even deeper negative cash flow. In this situation, should we just be happy with a negative cash flow situation in order to get our feet wet? Is there any way an investor like this would be willing to do a 30 year term when the plan is to refinance them out in two years? This is our first time negotiating any deal so we’re just trying to figure out what the hell to do to make it a win-win. Any other creative solutions in this scenario? TIA 

Have you looked at other financing? There’s tons of private money out there where you don’t need a job or any income verification to qualify. Maybe look into dscr loans. Angel Oak is one that uses the fact that you own a home and the rent is at least 1:1 with the rental mortgage payment. I would research further! I’ve been down the Google rabbit hole the past few days looking for the least amount down for hard or private money loans and I have found many other useful things. Don’t be afraid to call. I’ve talked to the Angel Oak people before and definitely decided I would look into them again later.

Quote from @John Teachout:

Another issue in a case like this, it's quite likely that even if you did want to divide the property into individual parcels, that wouldn't be possible. There's minimum frontage, setback, lot size and so forth in most jurisdictions and just because you want to split a parcel, doesn't mean it can be done. If this is an insurmountable issue with the lender (seems like an odd requirement) then you'll need to find a different funding source.

Yeah, I may need to find a secondary one over the weekend. Just in case. 

Here, I believe it would be the same. And if that’s the case I would be ok with paying to do so. I’ll just get it completely UC and wait and see what the lender says. I hate it when I have questions after hours lol.

Quote from @John Teachout:
If it's all on one tax parcel, you are buying a single property that has multiple structures on it. You wouldn't write separate offers on it just as you wouldn't make a separate offer on a detached workshop or garage if it was on a property with a house on it. A duplex or triplex is also a single property even though they have individual addresses. I believe you're over thinking this.

 Ok. I’ll write it all as one. I thought that with it being same tax ID… I suppose I can always modify it later if it’s wrong. I honestly do hope I’m just hyped and overthinking it.

Hi, so I’m using a hard money lender and I just saw on their site that if there are multiple detached buildings I have to write an offer for each…is that ok if they’re still on the same parcel? It’s all one one tax id, but each house does have its own address. How would that work? Or am I just over complicating it?

I just got an offer accepted verbally and I’m having to go back and modify the contract for one thing the seller wanted, now I’m seeing this and have a worry of “will I end up needing to have the seller subdivide the property?” I also don’t want to mention that now when I don’t know if that’s the case or if this is strictly for the loan process and scare them away over nothing. Should I just write three separate offers with the different addresses and same tax ID# for them all and leave it at that until I get ahold of my lender on Monday?


Thanks in advance for all your help!

I am working on getting my first deal. I found a 6 unit and the seller will do partial financing. I'm just starting to dive hard into looking at PML and HML as creative options. I'm just unsure how I could structure this and I'm looking for feedback/answers. I'd love to seller finance part of it and then use a PM or HM lender to help with the rest as well as rehab costs, but I'm unsure if that's even an option.

I'd like to BRRR it into a long term rental after. Do you think I could structure it without putting down my own money? The ARV when I'm done would be significant, at least a 20% gain from its current state.

Thanks in advance for your help!