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All Forum Posts by: Lisa Phillips

Lisa Phillips has started 4 posts and replied 291 times.

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

@Jay Hinrichs "If it sounds like Ms Phillips gives good advice...." Yes, I do give great advice, I wouldn't be around if i didn't nor have a 3X bestselling book "Investing In Rental Property For Beginners - Buy Low Rent High" if I wasn't extremely confident and committed to this asset class (im right behind Brandon Turner most days), and its 100% about this subject and goes into some of the nuances.  BUT there are whole communities out there of investors who ONLY DO THIS out there helping, which is amazing. So, there are resources, free or paid, for anyone really. the sub30k mastermind group on facebook is one of those places.

But again - its really not for everyone is the key take away. IT'S NOT FOR EVERYONE! If you are scared or uncomfortable - steer clear! I know i personally prefer people who profit AND CARE about the communities they are going in, so wont work with everyone for that purpose alone. But there are free resources specifically about it for people who love this asset class and believe in the responsibility of it. 

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

@Dennis M. Basically. This. I do find the people who do the best come from either some level of your background OR are just really open people who can navigate different socio-economic classes well. Thats a strength in this, not to be overlooked.

@Jonathan R. Nice! Glad I can help someone who cares and can navigate this successfully

@Randy E. Exactly. We need to bring the fact into play - if you're not comfortable (same as what Dennis was saying) they pick up on that. Doesnt mean there is anything wrong with this segment, it mostly likely means you may be a wrong choice for a certain strategy. 

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

@Jonathan R.  1350 a month is NOT a unicorn. My client Phillip and I was working with in NY (started 3 weeks ago) got this for a 50k duplex, and 1500 for a 50k - and found this in 1 week. It's fine, not that hard (but, experience helps with that, experience helping all sorts of people from all over goes into tha). But, it's like we are in different realms - when I work with people i have to purge them of the "these don't exist" and flush them out and start anew. They throw away a lot of that "standard advice" which really works for the top 20%, not the 80%. Will have the interview in about 6 weeks (we are finishing the closing process now, just got the inspection report).  

My other client, Arthur, is finding those returns as well ($1300 rents for a 30k property) (He is also in NY). But before I work with anyone, i have a frank discussion on their comfort level in class navigation - and not everyone is built to do that well, - I am intentionally narrowing my focus to ensure success and that they have the right mindset. 

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

@Ashley Hamilton congrats to your success!! Doesn't it feel great?

@Account Closed  you are spot on in your analogy. If you are talking about mustang's, and people are coming on the the thread who have never had a Mustang or tried it, why are they commenting on this thread?? This is a niche subject.

I dont spend much time on these forums because when I started talking about this 6 years ago on here, I only heard negative. When I would ask the (obvious) question "Have you actually invested in these areas" I would get the "No, but..." -- how the heck are you adding anything important to this discussion if you have absolutely no experience in this area and a ton of stereotypes, privilege, and assumptions - what's your agenda? More on that later, because its not always a bad agenda, but we need to start with the fundamentals assumptions....

I pretty much stop trying to argue with people on here for the following reasons 1) if they think so negatively of this demographic and the "headaches" that go along with it - the tenants don't need landlords like that in their neighborhoods and I don't need to spend time convincing them 2)  I don't need to try to learn or convince people who are diametrically opposed to how great this is. It's easier to follow where your tribe is than try to convince other people to your tribe. This niche is very foreign to the investors here for a multitude of reason - class, race, socio-economic familiarity, culturally, etc.

And I don't think they are necessarily wrong for that!! Some mistakes have been made in that demographic where - for that person - it WAS a bad mistake. Now, I help clients build these portfolios all over the united states successfully because i have EXPERIENCE in THIS NICHE- so, yes, you can mess up and will learn from trial and error if you don't know how to take those nuances into account (and these are investing nuances, as well as for this niche in what to expect and how to talk and work with people - you simply can not do it the same as you do other price points).

So, the people who actually have experience aren't wrong, and the people who think it cant work aren't wrong either (and I'm glad, right? Because these tenants deserve someone who comes at it with the energy for "of course this will work+," not the energy of "Well it's cheap! We will "make do" because this is what i can afford - it's a completely different energy and intent you're bringing, so why try to convince people with the latter to go into these neighborhoods - that's not what's needed). And anyways, you need a portfolio you are proud of - Not something you're ashamed to talk about around your dinner table. Everyone does better.

TL;DR - I have personally helped over 600 investors build their portfolios in the last 6 years all over country (although mostly people from NY, DC, VA, MD, TX, CA, and FL), and have inspired 1000s who are CONSISTENTLY posting in our mastermind group their progress, questions, and pictures. This place is not, and will never be, a place where they are going to cheerlead this. Look back at all the forum posts - its blatantly about 5 to 1 again - so, this isn't the place for this discussion- and THAT'S OKAY! That's okay, that's okay! It's not for them. Why try to convince someone with such hesitations about it? Everyone should build a portfolio they love (as I have, and my clients have), but if that's not for you - you don't need to focus on that then, right? But don't go in there because its cheap, because if you're uncomfortable, the tenants will pick up on it- and that doesn't end well. ever. Where as I would not bat an eye in that same neighborhood because I grew up (and out ) of the environment and its extremely familiar with me. What investors SHOULD say is that "Im not into this price range, but you should learn from people who are doing it successfully" and that level of thoughtfulness doesn't come through when I read these comments.

Post: The $30k rental club.......

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

@Account Closed Easy and 2 words: White Flight for some of it, classism for the other parts. I've been doing this for 6 years, for myself and helping people build portfolios all over America, and it basically comes down to these two things. 

Post: Should I not invest out of state?

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

I've helped out of state investors from all over the country invest out of state. Its so interesting how on BP they give advice that is just absolutely....I wouldnt say trash...but close to it. An article that says "What to watch out for investing out of state" would be more appropriate. I just hate advice that thinks just because they haven't done it well, others can't. Just be mindful if something scares you that badly. 

I've only invested long distance - thats as natural to me as breathing, personally. I've helped Californians, Texans, Floridians, New Yorkers successfully do it - they are in my sub30k mastermind group on facebook (in my bio). 

Sometimes, I get a little angry that articles like that have an arrogance to say NO ONE should invest out of state, when in fact, it really should show the pitfalls...and even better, show a SOLUTION to those pitfalls. That's where these articles fail. There arent many obstacles at this point we can't work around.  This type of advice has stopped thousands from investing. Im not saying they are doing it to make sure they get more for themselves, but its really sad how it can really shut down people's ability to get into the market. 

All this to say - I DO see a lot of people who buy cheap, but aren't making sure they are accurately vetting the market, property, or  neighborhood. That is a problem, and risky. But its QUITE easy to fix those issues if you look at those items in advance and learn how to be discerning between each deal.

Post: New landlord and possible tenant situation already! Advice please

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277
Originally posted by @Aaron Maxwell:
@Migeul Obramowitz actually that is not true what you are saying,seems kinda racist to me. There are alot of good working class paying citizens in the hood that have jobs and careers. And there are plenty of investors in the hood.look at harlen now, look at oakland ca, smh. And my advice is get lisa phillips book or check out her poadcast on youtube. But her book is really good .

 And this is why discussing low income properties on here is a losing proposition...But I did see good advice sprinkled within the mass stereotypes.

Post: Sex Offenders C Class properties

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

Why would you only bring mass sex offenders and shove them all in low income communities? Do they need a concentration of that of that?

Post: 15K - 20K to invest...starting out

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

This is a fine amount. Investing out of state is easier for me (I've always lived in expensive areas where you can't afford to invest in unless you have a lot of family money). Its as easy to invest out of state than in state if you account for distinct factors. I've helped my last 5 California clients choose, but each place was different since everyone has a different amount of resources, travel aversion or love, and how aggressive thier goals are. 

Depending on those factors, you really can find the best locations for YOU, not for anyone else. That's what I help people with everyday. Not hard AT ALL. PM me if you like to connect more. 

Lisa

Post: Is Sub30K Homes still a thing?

Lisa PhillipsPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Arlington, VA
  • Posts 300
  • Votes 277

Yes, it is. It looks different depending what your  business is, but I've just helped 2 people (1 in baltimore - which i dont recommend for everyone unless you have a base there), and a client in California. Its just fine.