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All Forum Posts by: Tyler Sherman

Tyler Sherman has started 9 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: Pest control STRs

Tyler ShermanPosted
  • Posts 24
  • Votes 13

Hello, 

Can anyone provide a recommendation for proactive pest control for STRs in Charlotte? 

Thanks!

Quote from @Kimbi Slice:

The Friday night before Memorial Day, I got a ping. My Airbnb just got a whole weeks booking! Great…guest paid $8,824 for an 8 day stay. I was grateful! Because it was a late night (8:20 PM) booking, I replied to confirm that check in was actually for that night. She replied “Yes. I’m just looking for a place for me and my family to rest our heads.”  I asked for 2 hours so that I could make sure it’s ready…and for the inconvenience I gave them an extra night free.

I didn’t know why my intuition was antsy but it was the whole time. I discreetly stayed around to watch them check in. A small SUV with children arrived first…an hour later a red pickup truck pulled up. At this time they all went in. 

My camera signal was low so I didn’t want to keep opening the app for it to die…but I was able to screenshot it and zoom in from my phone screen. It was a holiday week. They had over 40 people in and out of my home. Majority of them looked like junkies. One night, I saw something that appeared to be my master bedspread on the front lawn but I was like naw it couldn’t be. 

When they left, the camera showed a loaded truck bed with luggage stacked high….as the whole week they loaded the truck bed every single night. It didn’t dawn on me that they were loading the truck with my items.

They stole 2 55” TVs out of my gaming room, EVERYTHING out of my kitchen cabinets including the dishes, glasses, small appliances: Ninja blenders, toasters, air fryers and more. They put cigarettes out on my sofa, nightstands, and carpets. Vomit everywhere! I found drug paraphernalia everywhere. The home reeked of all sorts of odors. 

I’m glad I kept all communication on the site. It was a devastating experience!

Currently, I’m waiting for Airbnb to refund me. No one has said anything yet, but I bet that credit card was stolen too. Has anyone else been scammed like this before? What is the purpose of going through these platforms if they aren’t really verifying the guests as they say they are?


 Sorry, this happened to you! Please let us know the outcome with Airbnb!

Quote from @Bruce Woodruff:

Wait a minute....you say you saw them with 40 people in your house, plus your stuff out on the front lawn....? And you did nothing? 

And accepting a same day, late night reservation is a no-no anyway.....

Sorry for the issues, and yes people are jerks, but it seems like a lot of this is on you.


 Newbie here. What course of action would you have taken if you saw this?

Quote from @Greg M.:
Quote from @Kaiston Terry:

Sounds good in theory, but in reality it's not going to work. If you're looking for 3X rent, then you're requiring 6X rent for a married couple (as each must quality). A couple making 6X rent probably don't want to rent your place, they want a nicer place or are buyers. 

What happens when their child turns 18, but still lives with them? 9X rent now? 

What happens if the husband makes 5X rent, but the wife is disabled and makes $0 because she can't work. When you deny because they both don't quality, you're basically denying for a disability. 

You need to think about what you really want (tenants that can pay and have an aversion to having their credit trashed) and then word it extremely carefully. 


 This is a fair point. Ofc what you can get has to be part of the cost/benefit analysis. Generally, this sounds like a high-risk situation.

Quote from @Brandon P.:
If there are uncommitted parties (not married) but just boyfriends, I feel this could get difficult down the road if something were to go sideways. I would be very cautious with moving forward. It's easy to fill a house, but you need to do your due diligence beforehand.

Actually, in my experience, the non-commitment makes it easier if things were to go sideways. If they aren't on the lease and the tenants want them gone can always get the police to kick them out. It's more challenging when both parties are on the lease and one wants the other out.

Ofc (like others have said) this is contingent on the tenants being eligible without reliance on the others.

Quote from @Levi Bennett:

@Tyler Sherman I think I should chime in. Before I get into it.. I own 5 properties in NC, and have brokered 30+ STRs in NC around Charlotte and Western North Carolina in the last 18 months, and have been doing STR, Multi-family, MTR, and LTR acquisitions and disposition for over 9 years. So I'm not just a random guy chiming in. I have lived in Charlotte most of my life, and specialize in investment acquisition.

First of all, the questions you're asking are really good ones, but you'd be served well to work with someone with experience in LTR, MTR, and STR acquisition so that they can help you sift you through the data and discuss the pros and cons with some actual experience. Nothing against @Eliott Elias but, the truth is, your strategy should align with the goals you have. In some cases that is LTR, other cases that is MTR or STR. There's simply not enough information about you to determine your goals and how best to meet them. Knowing the pros and cons and having PAID data is helplful. I have a full state-wide license to use AirDNA (opinions will differ on this, but here's mine..) and it is, by far, the most accurate. That's coming from experience in comparing my clients performance to actual P&L's that have been sent to me to review. Rabbu is typically low, and inaccurate in certain markets, and Pricelabs have been having issues lately (there's been a bit of an exodus lately into different software platforms). I also pay for Mashvisor, and have spoken to the people at Awning and honestly most of the data just stinks. I can explain why more technically, but basically everyone is scraping the data differently, and weighting things differently.. Also, there is a lot of useless data that is heaped in that isn't helpful and makes the underwriting confusing. 

Most importantly, what @Anne Sargeant said about exact location, and TYPE OF HOUSE is going to be massive. Maybe in one zip code 3-bedrooms are completely over-saturated, but 4+ bedrooms are in high demand. Layer that with a unique style house with a unique feature to the property and you get one that will do 180% more revenue. STR is not a passive investment, so looking at overall numbers are always misleading. You can always beat the projection by stacking "value layers".. things like unique architecture, bedrooms per dollar, views, amenities, interior design, availability (mentioned above) will be your drivers of revenue more than actual location.. so, while location is important, in my opinion, it is NOT the MOST important thing when underwriting. 

Also, from a legal perspective, you can check out this blog I wrote last year after the Wilmington appeals case was lost: "Short Term Rental Restrictions in North Carolina"
The biggest news that's happened since then is that there is a bill that has been introduced to completely ban regulatory restrictions by local governments on STRs, however, it hasn't been added to the house vote yet, so it remains to be seen.. NC, as a state, has been extremely friendly to STRs historically.. there's a lot of reasons why but it's rooted in private property law interpretation here that's very favorable to the owner. In many cities however, you will find there is a big desire to regulate or restrict STRs due to the affordable housing crisis here, so.. we'll see what happens, but for now, that blog I wrote is still accurate and explains it in more detail. 

Finally, since you asked.. here's a few screenshots that might help a little bit. 

Just on quick glance, you can see that 1-3 bedrooms are very overcooked and you'll have an uphill battle getting occupancy. You'll have wind in your sails as Airbnb will boost your listing as a new property for the first 12 months, but in the long run, having a 4+ bedroom is going to be much easier to stand out. In general, you can see the steady growth in market cap, which shows a healthy market.

Not to open another can of worms, but another reason to speak with someone local will be to discuss the plethora of exploding areas around the city that are ripe for STR and MTR growth.

A quick note about MTRs.. in the Charlotte-Metro area in 2022, there were 8000 total listings for MTRs and 60,000 applications. Take that for what you will, but the strategy among the most successful investors here is to buy with the intention of multiple exits, including STR, MTR and possible LTR in the future, and listing across multiple platforms, say STR and MTR at the same time, and take the tenants that make the most sense. 

There's a lot more to talk about, but I hope some of this is helpful. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions. Good luck!


This is hugely helpful! Thanks, Levi! I sent you a message.

Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Here’s some advice for getting into short term rentals right now. Don’t. Spare your time and energy into buying more long-term rentals.


 HI Eliott - curious why you have this view.

Quote from @Karl McGarvey:
Quote from @Tyler Sherman:
Quote from @Karl McGarvey:

For you #1 - Use Pricelabs! They have market data for only

$10 that provides an incredible amount of market insight. I use it on every deal that I represent clients on down here in the Houston/Galveston area


 Hey Karl -- thanks for the suggestion. I just purchased a dashboard for one of the properties on Pricelabs. I tried to do my own comparative analysis to filter down the properties that are most like my own. I noticed that the comp sets are broken down by Airbnb and VRBO. If I were to put my STRs on both platforms, is it sensible to combine the two figures, i.e., the estimated revenue from the VRBO + Airbnb to understand what my revenue could look like? 


I find it a bit of a product gap that they don't attempt to give you a total revenue figure. Airdna's free calculator tool did give me a sense at a high level. I just wasn't able to see the data broken down like pricelab has it for each platform.


Thanks for your help!




 Pricelabs actually does give you an estimated revenue and occupancy. On the right side of the report where it says "column filters" you can add both of them. Every market is different for which platform performs better for a given listing. What I look at more closely than the averages, are the properties closest to the one I am looking at for my clients. Specifically the numbers they have as well as reviews and the reasons for those reviews. If revenue is low, I am trying to find out if there is a problem that is fixable with new mgmt, or if the property is a dead end from the beginning. 


 Let me know if I'm missing something. In the View comp stats drop down, you can choose from ABB or VRBO data sets not both (screenshot 3). When you click on the data sets it give you different KPIs for estimated revenue per platform (screenshots 2 and 3).

Not sure how the customize filters option you mentioned would help here. (screenshot 1).

Basically, I'm wondering if combining revenues from screenshot 2 and screenshot 3 is the right way to think about estimated revenue based on pricelab data.

Hopefully, I'm not being dense! Thanks again!

Quote from @Karl McGarvey:

For you #1 - Use Pricelabs! They have market data for only $10 that provides an incredible amount of market insight. I use it on every deal that I represent clients on down here in the Houston/Galveston area


 Hey Karl -- thanks for the suggestion. I just purchased a dashboard for one of the properties on Pricelabs. I tried to do my own comparative analysis to filter down the properties that are most like my own. I noticed that the comp sets are broken down by Airbnb and VRBO. If I were to put my STRs on both platforms, is it sensible to combine the two figures, i.e., the estimated revenue from the VRBO + Airbnb to understand what my revenue could look like? 


I find it a bit of a product gap that they don't attempt to give you a total revenue figure. Airdna's free calculator tool did give me a sense at a high level. I just wasn't able to see the data broken down like pricelab has it for each platform.


Thanks for your help!



1) Would anyone in the Charlotte area be willing to share their STR revenue and occupancy last year? Ideally for a 3 bed 2 bath home. I've reviewed some resources and Airbnb, but it would be hugely helpful to see some anecdotal numbers.

2) Is there an ideal time of the year to be opening your doors to STRs in Charlotte?

3) What is the climate on STR regulation in the area? Based on what I've reviewed, it looks like there were some attempts to regulate over the last couple of years, but it had fizzled out. I've also read the state legislature has a bill attempting to block regulation on STRs completely. As it stands, I believe there's no current regulation in place other than an occupancy tax.


I'm considering opening up my property to short-term and medium-term as well. It would be nice to meet some connections who are doing the same. An ideal scenario for me would be to build a network that can pass on opportunities if, for example, our homes are full.

Looking forward to hearing from you!