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All Forum Posts by: Tyler Munroe

Tyler Munroe has started 11 posts and replied 77 times.

Post: Legally Rejecting Applications

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

One thing I would add here is to check prior landlord references, not just from their current one. If they are difficult, the current landlord may not give you a straight answer because they want them to find a place and move out. If they don't have prior landlord references, that's a valid excuse for not moving forward with their applications - you simply want more rental history.

Post: HELOC on Investment Property

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Came across this thread while researching investment HELOCs and just wanted to give an update on my search. I coincidentally was looking in NH like the original poster, but ended up calling banks throughout all of New England to no avail. I even called around to DSCR lenders and they weren't even doing them. Seems that lending standards have tightened quite a bit since these posts (that's what most bankers were telling me on the phone). I did, however, have some luck with a unique mortgage/HELOC combo through Mascoma Bank. I'm currently in the underwriting process so it's far from funded, but it was the only bank who would even consider some type of investment HELOC. They're letting me take the smallest mortgage possible (around $75K) and then have the rest in a HELOC.

I was originally looking for a straight HELOC because I intend to use the funds on a SF flip, but I'm not sure when I'll find the right deal, so having access to the money without a monthly payment is advantageous for me.

I came across ONE bank - Washington Trust out of RI - that is actually doing investment HELOCs, but only in the southern New England area (like south of Concord, NH). So if anyone has property there I'd try reaching out to that bank.

Post: Looking to connect with wholesalers in MA

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Hi BP - I'm actively looking to connect with wholesalers in Massachusetts. I'm a broker at a large cash buyer of distressed properties basically anywhere in MA. We are currently buying around 20 properties a month for our investors and looking to work with anyone who can bring us discounted or off market listings.

Thanks!

Tyler

Post: Hello friends of BiggerPockets

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Hi Lewis - let's connect. My office buys deals from wholesalers quite often so we can be a great resource if/when you find a deal.

Thanks!

Post: Check my math! Condo conversion project

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

What's up BP?

I have a few properties around Boston and one of them is a prime condo conversion candidate. Problem is I'm a die hard buy and hold investor so really only like to sell property when it can give me significant gains over holding. I'm trying to rationalize making a decision between condo'ing it and holding, and here's where I ended up with it. I'm evaluating both options over a 10 year time period. Would love some feedback if I'm missing something here!

Scenario 1: Condo conversion

I'll skip all the renovation details and get right to the point - reasonable net profit from this project would get me around $863,000 which, after LTCG tax would be around $733,550. These are luxury, townhouse-style units so that's why the high dollar amounts. I would then safely reinvest this in a low risk option (high yield savings, ETFs, bonds, etc.) and am assuming a relatively reasonable 5% return. After ten years compounding at 5% that amount would be worth $1,348,602, which would really be $1,256,344 after accounting for LTCG @ 15% (1,348,602-733,500 * .15).

Final amount for condo conversion: $1,256,344

Pros: After money is reinvested, passive income

Cons: Taxed twice, once on sale, once when investments are sold, no real control over money once invested

Scenario 2: 10 year hold

I pasted my numbers at the bottom of this post so it's easier to see, but my thought process was as follows:

1) Calculate value based on reasonable appreciation trends, plus cash flow. Yearly cash flow is post tax for simplicity. This amount is fairly predictable year over year, even with repairs.

2) Calculate my loan payoff @ year 10 to find equity at the time of sale.  

3) Multiplied this by LTCG of 15%. I know this would likely be a touch lower since I'd be deducting any renovations or selling expenses, but just left this for simplicity.

4) Added together my after tax sales proceeds and cash flow to arrive at a 10 year number of $1,255,274.

Considerations:

I found it coincidental that both numbers were within $1,000 of each other. If this analysis is accurate enough, in this case I'd most likely hold, since I could 1031 the gain at the sale instead of straight selling. I also prefer real estate over stocks, even though I manage the property myself. I will say having that passive income is tempting but it would come at the cost of doing a full blown condo conversion to free up the capital.

Anyways, am I thinking about this right? Anything else I should consider here? I'm not the best at math so am using, what I think, is a more common sense approach, but seemed to make sense to me. I guess I could probably work in ROE as a metric here but not totally sure.

YearValue (3%/year)Post Tax Cash Flow
1$1,300,000$40,000
2$1,339,000$40,000
3$1,379,170$40,000
4$1,420,545$40,000
5$1,463,161$40,000
6$1,507,056$40,000
7$1,552,268$40,000
8$1,598,836$40,000
9$1,646,801$40,000
10$1,696,205$40,000
Total$1,696,205$400,000
Debt @ year 10$690,000
Equity$1,006,205
Tax @ 15%$150,931
After tax sale$855,274
Sale + CF$1,255,274

Post: What's the STR forecast for 2023?

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Popular destinations are pretty easy to identify and well-run STRs will always thrive there. What I don't see mentioned on this thread (and also pertaining to a "recession-proof" STR), is how does your property compare to those around you? Do you have a jacuzzi when 65% of other listings have one? What about a game room? Baths per bedroom? Waterfront? The list goes on. Point is that you can minimize effects of a downturn and/or over saturation by having a property even marginally better than those around you. These differentiators will be the difference between success and failure if/when occupancy slides.

Post: Is Massachusetts impossible??

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Seems like the days of living for free house hacking in Boston may be gone. With rates and prices the way they are, just look for opportunities where your mortgage payment will be much lower than what your place would rent for. For example, I'm house hacking now in a 2 family bought in 2020. Mortgage is ~3,500 and the other unit rents for 2,450. Difference of $1,250 is what I pay to live in an apartment that would rent for $4,000. I view that 2,750 as a huge win especially considering I have a tenant paying for the majority of the mortgage to help build equity on top of that.

Post: Multifamily or single family as first investment?

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

I think analyzing a house hack is more subjective since you'll actually be living there. I've only lived in house hacks for the last 10 years and currently pay $1,250 to live in an apartment that would rent for $4K. Point being that a lot of people say you should live for free, but if that's not possible just aim for the best value based on the mortgage payment vs. rent value. You can then look at it as saving that difference (ex. in my case saving 2,750/month). Add to those savings the equity you build by having your mortgage partially paid down by someone else and you'll be way ahead of any renter or single family owner.

Post: Experienced Investor/Deal Finder Looking for Money Partners

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Hi BP!

I'm a full time investor and broker in the Boston area and am looking to expand my network a bit. I've had success finding and executing deals and am now looking for money partners to continue those efforts. I've been in real estate since 2013 and have acquired 15 doors which I own and manage with my wife. I'm looking at deals every day on and off market and am seeking more capital to make them happen. If you are looking for an experienced investor/broker to help you find and execute deals please send me a message, thanks!

Post: Should I invest cash out refifunds into ADU or another strategy??

Tyler Munroe
Posted
  • Boston, MA
  • Posts 79
  • Votes 41

Are you in 3 family zoning? If so, then an additional unit may be a better value add than purchasing something else. If you can only add the 3rd unit via the ADU program it may not be worth it based on the restrictions of the program (see previous replies).