All Forum Posts by: Trina Walker

@JD Martin

Thanks for your reply. I feel confident that I can learn about REI from BP. I worked in legal records and information management for over 20 years. I love systems and SOP's. My specialty was studying processes and making them more efficient. I am a firm believer in working smarter. That is what impressed me with the FB program.

They offer the following and more:

 a daily hotline for deal reviews, 

an automated repair calculator that finds the parts you need, where they are located, the ability to order from the online form and have them delivered. 

a point and click scope of work form for the contractor that has every configuration of a room possible and the ability to list everything you want rehabbed down to door stops that you print and hand to the contractor. 

They put you on a bus to visit rehab sites of students in your local area to see the process up close and personal. 

All training is in online in one place, updated frequently and can be that accessed forever along with the forms, checklists and business systems.  

Professional Marketing packets for sellers, buyers and lenders that you paste your logo and pictures into

All of the above save time and time is money.

I'm not being cheeky, but will the gurus here share the systems, forms and checklists they created for their businesses with me to use in mine? I'm going to join PRO today to find out. 

Thanks to everyone for your replies! They give me another perspective and demonstrate just how supportive the BP community is. I've decided to build my REI knowledge over the next 6 months on BP and perform more due diligence on FB. I'll make my decision on FB in January 2018, God willing. They have 3 Mastery options ranging from $30k to $50k.

If I was 30 or even 40, I would be ready to DIY everything just to build a strong foundation over time. At my age I want to take advantage of cookie cutter systems to hit the ground running.  

FB promises support, SOP's and systems to make tasks like estimating repair costs easier than shadowing a contractor for 6 months. They don't promise success. The X factor is me. I am a motivated baby boomer staring down the barrel of an insufficient retirement account. I'm ready to do whatever it takes to succeed in REI in the shortest time possible. I'll report back on what I decide to do in January.

Peace & blessings! ✌🏾

@Andy Webb

Hey neighbor! Thanks for the warm welcome. I do plan to wholesale in HEB. You have the honor of being the first buyer on my list! I will contact you tomorrow to get your preferences for my records. 

@Michael Hastings

Thanks for the warm welcome! I see so many young people starting early in REI on BP. I'm glad I'm not the only older newbie. I'm sure I'll have information overload very soon. I've been on the app and website all day reading and listening to Podcasts. Good luck in your endeavors!

@Chris Martin

Well, Chris, I'm going to have to look up your posts on systems!  I went into the weekend with knowledge from this forum and the fact that I wouldn't/couldn't  pay for Mastery. I paid only $100 for the 3 day event. 

Even if I had the money, I dont buy anything that expensive without due diligence. That's why I created this thread. I respect BP so I'm here trying to find out if all those beautiful systems, forms and cut and paste marketing materials are worth it or not. I am going to research your suggestion of a local flipping class, and visit the local REIA's as well. I'm reasearching the benefits of taking the Texas Real Estate training to become an agent/investor. Is that safe or should I avoid taking the test like you did with the broker side?

We are definitely on the same page. I just really want the fast track. 🙂

@John Kesner

Something to think about. Thank you for your input!

I joined the site awhile back and never introduced myself. Today I am still on fire for REI after a 3 day seminar from one of those dreaded gurus. 😜 I worked at a regular office job for many years. Now I am an independent contractor working from home part-time and as a Licensed Massage Therapist part time. I'm not making the corporate income anymore, but the peace I have almost makes up for it, lol.... Almost! I need another stream of income and decided on REI after this weekend. I am considering becoming a Realtor/investor. I want to start wholesaling to learn about the basic process, move to flipping and eventually move to buy and hold of 1-2 multi-family properties. Why? Because I'm over 50 and need to secure my retirement and I want to travel before I am too much older. I am happy to be here to learn all I can and eventually help others. 🙂

Originally posted by @Chris Martin:

Regarding "...anyone who is truly motivated could succeed easily without paying (literally and figuratively) for newbie mistakes..." it sounds like the Kool-Aid went down smoothly

Lol, Kool-Aid! I worked at law firms doing legal records and information management for over 20 years that included supervisory positions. I believe in systems and SOP's for getting a job done correctly and quickly the 1st time. Why reinvent the wheel? My goal is to work smarter not harder. 

It appears that BP favors DIY study and the learn as you go method to start your REI career. I understand that it works for many. I appreciate hearing the logic behind the negative bias.

Thanks for your input! 

@Eddie Egelston

Eddie, Thanks for your input. I know that flipping houses is real work. I understand that the info is spread out over the internet and BP for free.  However, I don't know what I don't know. The FB pre-loaded forms, checklists and marketing systems seem like they would make setting my business up faster than me trying to create my own content/systems and missing critical elements.  

I guess a better question is, "Does the Mastery program actually deliver all the automated, online business systems content that I saw briefly on the big screens this weekend or not?"

I just spent 3 days at a Fortune Builders seminar as a newbie. It cost $100 each for me and a friend. I feel I got more than $100 value from it. Highlights: Forming my LLC in Nevada because of the stronger corporate veil laws The tax advantages of owning nothing and controlling everything with Solo 401(k), revocable trusts, etc. How to use leverage to obtain assets and turn around and make money repeatedly with the same process. The highest level of Mastery includes local walk through's of properties being rehabbed, daily 11 hour access to coaches to review your deals, boot camps for intensive, hands on, training for the top areas in REI. But more than that, a turn key rental club, lifetime access to all of the online training (regularly updated), marketing systems, forms and checklists needed to automate your business so you can work on it, instead of in it. A large network of investors for lending, buying and advice. If you buy any level of the course, it is a tax write off for your business and you could pay for it in a few rehab flips. I saw questions on checklists for repair estimates and hiring contractors that would take me a very long time (if ever) to figure out doing self study and asking questions of working investors who are busy with their own businesses. Mastery provides the training and business systems and deal support that will give you a quick start. You have lifetime access to create things like buyer packages and direct mailing campaigns with a few clicks on your laptop. It seems to me that anyone who is truly motivated could succeed easily without paying (literally and figuratively) for newbie mistakes. As a person over 50 who is lacking in retirement I need to get started quickly. I don't have the funds or credit to join Mastery now, but I want to to the training eventually. My question to the forum is "Why is a guru system like this considered a bad investment?" Thanks in advance for your comments. PS - I am not associated with Fortune Builders. I went to the seminar this past weekend with a negative bias after reading about them here. When I saw what they offered, I was impressed and confused by the BP forum comments.