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All Forum Posts by: Travis Collins

Travis Collins has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

Travis CollinsPosted
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Quote from @Dorothy Butala:

@Travis Collins I'm gonna back this train up and ask you some questions, because there are way too many unknowns in the info about what you are looking to do to be able to give actionable advice.  1. What is your goal for wholesaling - are you using it as a way to make "quick cash" before jumping into other real estate activities, or is it the strategy you want to stay focused on?  2. Who are you wholesaling to - do you have a current network of investors you are working with?  3. What are you plans for deals you get under contract but don't garner any interest from investors - what exit strategies do you have in place? 4. Seems like you are trying to cast a super wide net and focusing on the number of leads rather than number of deals - curious why you are focusing on the metric of 10k leads? 5. You stated you don't have 80 hours a week to focus on this endeavor (which is totally fine, I prefer to work less than 5 hours a week, so 80 seems excessive), how much time do you have weekly for this endeavor? 6. What type of assets are you trying to get under contract - SF? MF? Mixed use? land? value add? turn key? 

Looking forward to hearing your answers and seeing where I can potentially provide some guidance. 

Side note: Direct mail is not dead - the way people do it is ineffective.  My last "campaign" added a 1.4m asset to my portfolio and provided a lead on another $750k asset in the first round of letters. 

@Dorothy Butala Great questions.

1. My goal is to use the revenue from wholesaling to get into fix and flips -- and eventually use that money to buy & hold large Mf properties.

2. I have a couple of cash buyers who flip 10-12 houses per month as well as some REI facebook groups to post deals in. Of course Craigslist as well, but no official buyers list as of yet. I've created a FB page for my business and I plan on joining and interacting in the groups to start getting a list of potential buyers.

3.This is the toughest question, I currently don't have an exit strategy other than an inspection clause that I could use to renegotiate the deal. From what I understand this is SOP for wholesalers so they're not committed to a purchase just by putting the property under contract right?

4. I'm simply looking at the monthly limit of leads the Flipster software gives me. Once I actually start outbounding and get an idea of how many leads I need to work to get to a deal I can set a goal for deals per month but right now I have no idea the quality of the leads or data so I can only set goals on volume at this point.

5. I can dedicate 30-40 hours per week, I think anything past that my full time job would start to suffer.

6. Primarily SF distressed homes, but quite honestly I don't have anything against MF either. I was looking into land -- we have a ton of vacant lots in an area that is undergoing slow but steady gentrification .. people are doing new constructions so there could be some value in that but I'm still researching how land transactions differ from SFH.

I'll look more into direct mail - I'm mainly basing that conclusion off of hearsay.

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Quote from @Bryant Brislin:

@Travis Collins if you really want a CRM, a lot of guys start off with Podio, and then the companies that are more robust and doing lots of deals say that LeftMain from Salesforce is good.


Podio definitely looks attractive.

Post: Protecting your deal

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Hey BP,

So when it comes time to show your deal to cash buyers, how do you protect your deal from being taken by the buyer? What's keeping them from just waiting for your contract to expire and then coming in direct to the seller?

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Focus on the money generating tasks, finding deals. You do this by cold calling, door knocking, networking. 


Sounds good. I plan on going to some of the local events out here in my area. 

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:

All I can tell you is this my friend.

I was in your shoes too when I started.

I know that you think it is logical to think that way, to do the "wrong" methods first to get a dela to then do the right methods to get a deal.

But dude, translate into English what you are sugesting.

Here is what you are saying.

You want to do strategies that are proven not to work (like cold calling, driving for dollars, texting) to get a deal, so that YTHEN you will do strategies that DO work to get a deal.

Makes little sence right?

Now.. a bunch of people will try to convince you that cold calling works. Again, be careful ehere.

What is your definition of "it works". 

Is it: "CAN you get a deal doing cold calling"? The sure, it works. Yes you absolutely CAN get a deal doing cold calling.

Doe sit work?

No of course it doesn't. 

If your car only starts ONCE every 3000 times to turn the key, does the car work or not? No? But the car DOES start right? after so many tries? So why then do you still say the car doesn't work?

See my drift?

Look at this...

I see these kind of repleis over and over and over and over again. I just pasted one... there are a lot more.

So agian, why are you going to do the stuff that does NOT work .. to make money so that you can do the things that do work to make money.

Get a website, make it credible. No matter what you do, cold calling, texting, DMM FB ads etc. etc... the credible website is a must  as this will help you no matter what method you use to get leads. The website makes you credible. Period.


Great information. I definitely want to do SEO eventually but for now I'm having to utilize time and effort as my only resource.

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Quote from @Bryant Brislin:

If you are a one-man show, then for now, focus on tearing through as many phone calls as you can.  I see too many new guys spinning their wheels, doing everything they can to avoid cold calling.  Using Excel or Google Sheets and a calendar are all you need as far as a CRM.  If you use a dialer like Mojo, it has a built-in CRM that is plenty good for now.  PPC and other expensive ways of sourcing leads is usually Phase II or III of a business plan, once someone has a robust pipeline of deals via cold calling and/or SMS.  Cold calling is the best! The goal should be to close enough deals so that you can then afford to hire a cold caller (either domestic or overseas) and have as many as you can.


I have no problem cold calling, it's actually my full time job. I'm a bit weird in the fact that I actually enjoy it a bit.

I was worried about just working with Excel because of the volume of leads I'll be working per month. (10k) It seems like it'd be impossible to track that and schedule follow ups.

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Quote from @Michael Dumler:

@Travis Collins, there is a 90% fail rate for real estate agents and wholesalers. If you are in real estate sales, you better be in it for the long run because progression is minimal/non-existent for the first several years. Needless to say, your day-to-day should be filled with lead-generating activities. If you have capital, then SEO and ads can be vital forms of passive outreach/marketing. If you're starting with minimal capital, then cold calling and/or door-knocking may be your only option for active outreach. Yes, a CRM is essential. Moreover, you need to be tracking your lead and lag-generating measures daily. I use a CRM called Follow Up Boss where I have daily action plans initiated and implemented as a real estate agent. Hope this helps!


I'm definitely here for the long haul. I'm a sales guy so I'm ok with rejection and taking time to build a funnel up.

Starting with minimal capital for now so I guess playing the numbers game is the only way to go about it for now. Do you only call or do you use a text service as well? Also, I've heard direct mail is pretty dead, are you seeing that yourself?

I'll check that CRM out for sure.

Thanks for the info.

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Quote from @John O'Leary:

Hey Travis,

There is a lot to unpack here. I am in the Boardroom Master Mind which is one of the largest real estate/wholesale masterminds in the country. I'd be happy to connect you with some high level operators that offer coaching, and I know the CEO of Lamassu who can help with your cold calling. You should definitely be using a CRM for tracking your KPIs, and do some A-B testing of different outreach campaigns for your market. Happy to connect if you're interested. 


John,

Thanks for the intel. I probably should've mentioned that I do lead generation full time in the software industry so I'm not a complete novice when it comes to cold outreach. I guess my question is more so from a strategic stand point, I'm thinking how to I systematically approach the day. If all I need to do at this stage is just get my 10k leads, get my dials in and keep my CRM updated I can kill it but I want to be efficient as possible because I don't have 80 hours to put into this per week. It seems like the best way to generate inbound is with a solid web presence but it looks like it'll take thousands to get a website up and running that will actually rank well enough to generate incoming leads so I have to keep that on the back burner for now.

Thanks for the intel.

Post: Wholesaling Day to Day Workflow

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Hey all,

I'm looking to get into wholesaling off-market properties and I'm currently paying for Flipster. I'm wanting to really understand what everyone's day to day looks like because right now I feel like I'm staring at my computer and I don't know what I need to be doing. What tools do you use and generally what activities are you doing through your day? Is it simply get a list of leads, skip trace them and then call/text? With all of these different softwares out there I feel like I'm missing something. Do you guys use a CRM to track your outreach? Do I need a website with SEO for inbounds or is cold outreach sufficient until I have the money for ppc/seo/ads etc?

Thanks for your insight.



Quote from @Nathan Gesner:

Investors should be 100% debt free (not counting their primary residence, if they have one). They should have an emergency fund of $1,000 and they should have 3-6 months of living expenses saved up. Once you've stabilized your finances, then you can start saving money for investments.

You have very few expenses, so I would put every single dime towards paying off your debt, then start saving. Lenders will typically want to see two years of stable income before they lend to you, so you have time to get things in order before starting.

You're right. It's somewhat comforting to read this. I knew it deep down but I want it so bad I was willing to take the risk. The more I analyze my market the more it makes sense to wait. There's not many turn key multifamily properties in my area. I'll take the time to save and build credit.