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All Forum Posts by: Travis Boyd

Travis Boyd has started 5 posts and replied 14 times.

Post: Seeking advice on potential first deal - off market 6 unit apartment

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Thanks Bonnie! Good points on passing the utilities costs to the tenants and eliminating property management.

Post: Seeking advice on potential first deal - off market 6 unit apartment

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Hi BP community! I'm looking for advice on whether I should purchase my father-in-law's 6 unit apartment in Burien, WA (10 minutes south of Seattle) as my first deal, or perhaps help find him a seller that would pay more than I could and is a couple years ahead of me in REI. My father-in-law told me he plans to sell his 6 unit condo building ASAP so he can "retire" from being a landlord. He has owned it for over 30 years and has no debt, so seller financing is possible and he doesn't need a large amount of cash soon. 4 of the 6 units have been recently updated. The units are being rented below market at around $1,700/unit, whereas market rent seems to be around $2,150/unit for these 2 br/1.5 ba units with laundry in each unit and undercover parking. I know a year ago an investor reached out and offered him $1.6m which he felt was a low-ball offer. I tried calculating value based on NOI and cap rate (see below) but I'm new to this and the value seems to come out lower than I would expect. I am considering offering him $1.8m with a low (or no) down payment and seller financing at a low interest rate so I can at least break even on cash flow after getting rent closer to market value and with upside potential as a MTR and strong appreciation opportunity. For context, before I learned about his 6 unit I was planning to purchase a 2-3 unit long term rental in Q1 2025 as my first of many deals with a 5 year goal of financial freedom so I can coach my daughter's high school cross country and track teams. I'm also considering finding a seller that would pay more than me to help my father-in-law out and perhaps get a wholesale commission that I could use on my next (ok, first) brrrr, but I'm not sure the best way to validate a fair price or know what a fair wholesale commission would be. I will be attending a real estate meet up tomorrow night in Seattle but would appreciate any advice before the meet up.

Some numbers:

Expected 2026 income after raising rents to market value and assuming 7% vacancy: $144k.

Expenses: $14k property management, $18k property tax, $10k insurance, $10k utilities, $8k in repairs/maintenance/advertising/admin/etc: Total operating expenses: $60k

NOI: $84k

Based on 6% cap rate that brings the valuation to only $1.4m, or $1.5m based on 5.5% cap rate. That seems like a way too low evaluation. My father-in-law is also considering creating an HOA and selling each unit as a condo for $350k which would be $2.1M. That sounds like a lot of work and I'm sure he would prefer to avoid that work and just sell it for $1.9m or $2.0m.

if I were to buy it from him, to get to cash flow neutral I would need to increase rent on all 6 units to market rates and my monthly payment would need to be close to $6.2k/month, which would be $100k down payment, $1.7m loan with seller financing at 2% interest rate and flexible ballon payment.

What would you do if you were me? 

Thanks!

Post: How effective can MTR be with small multifamily properties?

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Super helpful. Thank you all for your responses. I'm excited to build momentum in this space in 2025. 

Post: How effective can MTR be with small multifamily properties?

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Hi BP community! I currently House Hack in Everett, WA (near Seattle) and utilize FurnishedFinder for our basement ADU with great success. I have built up enough equity and savings and will start adding multiple rental properties each year starting ASAP. I'm currently looking at markets with high demand for traveling nurses, and I'm looking for small mutlifamily properties like duplexes to help scale faster. I'm wondering if other MTR investors are having success renting out side by side duplexes (or triplex/quadplex) as MTR's? I also plan to Brrrr. Might as well start out doing as much value add as possible, right? I'd love to hear your perspective!

Post: Should I wait to form my LLC until after my first purchase

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24
Quote from @Stuart Udis:

@Travis Boyd Outside of instances where FHA or other extremely advantageous financing options exist I am a proponent of the LLC for investment real estate although the liability piece is overstated. If a claim is filed and the property is owned through an LLC the individual members are less likely to be named in the complaint and that above all else keeps the members name out of the docket. Again not always, but more times than not. This in itself is an understated benefit because its a real pain having to explain to a lender, prospective employer etc. why your name is in the docket.

Secondarily, LLC ownership is very helpful for business planning. Nobody has a crystal ball or knows what the future holds. Perhaps you want to sell ownership interest. It's a lot easier to do so if the property is already owned through an LLC than having to retitle real estate.

Form an LLC where the property is located or where you live. No need for management LLC's, LLC's in WY, DE or any of the other states that are inaccurately deemed to be better for incorporation. In most cases no need to form an LLC until you are under contract with a property and know you are moving forward. Just add novation language allowing the change of buyer name and inform the title company and lender of the change ahead of time.

Title company will need formation docs, and operating agreement to prepare deed and title docs and lender will need formation docs and operating agreement for lien search and loan docs. Generally if you are up front about the intention and the members are disclosed along with the membership interests and members personal financials underwriting can proceed with the formation docs to follow. I would imagine the bigger loan origination companies out there who underwrite like robots because they are lining up the sale before closing  will be the exception and require those docs up front. 


 Super helpful, Stuart. Thank you!

Post: Should I wait to form my LLC until after my first purchase

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

It is for liability protection. My understanding is the key is to keep separate bank accounts and financial transactions.

Post: Should I wait to form my LLC until after my first purchase

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Hi all. I'm planning to launch my long term rental portfolio in 2025. I live near Seattle and I'm currently trying to choose between OH and TN for my target market as an out of state investor (which could still change). I'm planning to start an LLC but I'm wondering if I should wait until I have 100% chosen my market so I use the state of that market? Or should I just get the LLC formed under WA state where I live? Also, should I find a CPA that specializes in real estate investment before forming an LLC and before purchasing my first property? For context, I have $80k in liquidity and $1m in equity in my primary residence so working on opening a HELOC and plan to add multiple properties each year through the BRRRRR method. I wouldn't be surprised if I end up with properties in multiple states so not sure how much it matters where my LLC is located. Any and all advice is welcome!

Post: Newbie & long distance

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Hi Radhika!  I can 100% relate with you. Over the last three weeks I've read 7 of the real estate books and spent hours listening to biggerpockets podcasts trying to learn as much as a I can and narrow down my focus. I relate with knowing I want to build my real estate portfolio but feeling overwhelmed with how to choose a market (I live in Seattle which is similar to CA with regards to the price to rent ratio challenges), so I wanted to share my current plan. I have done a couple hours of initial research searching for top markets and have an initial list that I'm researching including Detroit, Memphis, and OH (Columbus, Dayton, Cleveland, Cincinnati) to start. I have spoken with an agent/PM in Detroit that somewhat scared me away from the Detroit market (eviction rate is currently 8% down from 20% 5 years ago and such a different environment that I'm familiar with). I also have learned Memphis can be quite spotty (a dangerous block can be just a couple blocks from a good renting location so you really need a boots on the ground agent/team that you can trust).  I'm less overwhelmed the more I talk with people, and everyone has been helpful and happy to chat with me. Now I realize it is going to take a couple months of talking to real estate investors and agents etc to help me slowly dial in my market territory. I am not much closer that I was a couple weeks ago, but the more I talk with people the more confident I get that I will get there, and you will too in time!  It may not be a bad idea to give yourself a few months to network and learn. Also, I've been asking most people I talk with for references and keep getting in contact with more people, all of whom have been happy to chat for a few minutes. It sounds like you've got the ball rolling in the right direction already, so keep up the great work!

Post: What are your real estate investing goals for 2025?

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

This is such a great question, so thank you @Jonathan Greene for posting this.

In 2025 I am planning to:

A. Build network within the real estate Investment community (especially in PNW) and build my core 4: 1. Rockstar agent in PNW/North Seattle area. 2. Lender that can help me utilize HELOC to get me started and then help me grow my portfolio through BRRRR in PNW. 3. Contractor for my first ever rehab project who can grow with me as I add new properties. 4 PM to ensure my first non-House-Hack rental operates well and can grow with me as I add more properties in the years to come.

B. Invest in my knowledge/education of real estate rental investment through reading, listening to podcasts, and talking/networking with other RE investors, etc. Become an export in real estate investment while (and here's the key)...maintaining work life balance so I continue to perform well in my W2 job and have quantity and quality time with my wife and kids.

C. Solidify my "why" and long term strategy so I persist in times of uncertainty and challenge. Build scalable process that allow me to stick to my plan and maintain balance according to my values.

D. Purchase my first rental property around $500k located within 30 minute drive of my home (North of Seattle), complete my first rehab, refinance, and cash flow positively.  (the amount of learning/education I complete in the next few months may influence the price and market location as I research potential deals and cash flow opportunities)

E. Keep my wife happy by updating the light fixtures in our home, but keeping myself happy by keeping those costs to $1k or less so we can build momentum with our BRRRR.

F. Improve the photos of my MTR / house hack basement and increase annual income from $18k to $20k.

Post: Investing Newbie: an intro and preliminary strategy review

Travis BoydPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Everett, WA
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 24

Hi Ben! I also live in Snohomish County and am planning to purchase my first rental property in 2025. I'm curious to hear how your journey has progressed and your current plans!