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All Forum Posts by: Tony Stephan

Tony Stephan has started 15 posts and replied 58 times.

Post: Just Listed Duplex in Metro Detroit!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/121-Lincol...

Welcome to this well-maintained, fully occupied duplex in the heart of Mt. Clemens, Michigan! Whether you're looking for a solid investment property or a home with income potential, this duplex is a fantastic opportunity. This duplex is perfect for investors looking for a low-maintenance property with strong cash flow potential. With both units currently rented, you can start earning from day one. Mt. Clemens is a growing area with increasing demand for rental properties, ensuring a stable rental income for years to come. Don’t miss out on this fantastic opportunity to add a prime duplex to your portfolio. Schedule a showing today and see the potential for yourself!

Current rents:

upper unit: $950, tenant pays all utilities and snow, lease expires June 2025

lower unit $1000, tenant pays all utilities and snow, lease expires June 2025

Landlord pays for grass

This duplex exceeds the 1% rule! 

Please reach out for more information!

Post: 16 unit major value add off market multifamily

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Michael Penny:

@Tony Stephan way to go!  I am looking to put permanent financing on my 16 units once stabilized, have you refinanced at this point?  If so, would love to hear which lender you went with.


 Yes sir we just 100% refinanced...Used the same credit union who had the original debt. 

Post: Door count is a terrible metric. Please stop using it.

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @V.G Jason:
Quote from @Dave Meyer:

@V.G Jason not sure I understand your post. Yes, I work for BiggerPockets but I am an individual with my own opinions.  As a veteran of these forums, I assumed you know that BP employees are free to post their own thoughts, as I’ve done here. If you look at the history of my posts, blogs, and media content, you’d see I’ve never advocated for quantity over quality. 

 

You haven't advocated for quantity-- I get that, but you've advocated for things that are usually not quality per se. You're a cash flow investor, through and through. That's usually high cap rates and let's go find where those are today, and then ask yourself are those quality investments.

Not to say cash flow investing can't be a quality investment, but it's rarer and rarer. You're the one to preach Cheyenne WY, Rochester NY, you're not promoting the real quality areas.

There's a few of us on this board a year + that have preached quality. The shift is growing. BP loves to take material from their boards and act like it's theirs. 

To contribute to this thread though-- I whole heartedly agree. It's all about quality. The average BPer needs to scale up  to 6-8 houses then sell 1, refi 1 down to 4-6 houses over 7-15 years and be debt free. That is achievable for the average $80k BPer over that time period. Just no one has that patience. And the priority is 1-2 cities for those 3-4 houses each, and get high quality area. Not Detroit, Cleveland, or some of the cities you've suggested. 


 We own 220+ units in Metro-Detroit...Don't hate on it!

Post: CLOSED: Welcome to Golfview 100 Unit Apartments!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) buy & hold investment.

CLOSED: Welcome to Golfview 100 Unit Apartments!

The story: I freaking love this deal. The group we purchased from came in and did a beautiful high end renovation on all 100 units. But, the deal has been struggling from an operations perspective. The value add on this deal is in the MANAGEMENT and OPERATIONS. We will come in and implement our proven management blueprint to increase the NOI.

Operations = EVERYTHING!

The debt: 7.10% rate FIXED for 10 years, 2 years interest only, 25 year AM.

Thank you to all of our TEAM at The Stephan Group who will be involved to make this deal a HOME RUN play.

Thank you to @apartmentrockstar for challenging me 1 year ago to take our skillset and proven track record on small multifamily and go bigger! My next deal after that was 56 units privately owned by my wife and I, and now we closed a 100 unit.

Thank you to our investors on this deal. This is the FIRST time we've ever brought in outside capital on a deal. We decided to contact a few key people who expressed interest in the past to potentially invest on this deal with us. I was humbled that within a few hours, it was fully funded! We're excited to provide an amazing ROI for them and share the wealth building benefits of Multifamily!

And most importantly thank you to my wife and partner Andrea. I wouldn’t trade what we’re building here for anything in the world!

The plan is to come in and improve the NOI over the next 12-24 months then implement a strategic cash out refinance and move to long term permanent agency debt.

You can hire our team at The Stephan Group to implement our proven blueprint of how we’ve built from 0 - 220+ units in 4 years. Whether it’s a single family home, or a small multifamily, we can help you get into cash flow producing real estate in Michigan.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

100 units with value add potential from operations.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Off market through a relationship with the broker who sold me my 56 unit off market.

How did you finance this deal?

Local credit union financing.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Challenges were we bought from a large institutional group so definitely was fiercer negotiations than past deals! But I was able to create a win win for all parties and close the deal.

Post: Door count is a terrible metric. Please stop using it.

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54

In any business QUALITY beats QUANTITY every day...My wife and I own 220 units and our focus is the BEST assets, not the most!

Post: Just closed THREE cash out refinances on three of our Multifamily rentals!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Colin Faux:

Congratulations Tony and Andrea! Sounds like you're making winning decisions on both properties and operations! 

When you're ready to consider your next cash-out refinance, make sure to ask me for a quote. My company offers a price beat guarantee. 


 Will do thank you for sharing!

Post: Just closed THREE cash out refinances on three of our Multifamily rentals!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Zach Knoll:

Congratulations! Awesome to hear!


 Hope our story was helpful!

Post: Just closed THREE cash out refinances on three of our Multifamily rentals!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Joe S.:

It was nice for you to give your wife credit… smart  move for doing that. I tell people I’m my wife’s assistant. Lol

You mentioned it was multifamily, but you did not mention unit count. Can you share a little more detail?


 I 100% meant it...she owns and operates our real estate brokerage and our management company. It was a 16, 12, and 8 unit refinance. I dropped a full breakdown video on my YouTube channel if you want to learn more! Link is on my bio.

Post: Just closed THREE cash out refinances on three of our Multifamily rentals!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
Quote from @Tony Stephan:
Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:

good work..  if thats what you want is debt.

keep in mind refi proceeds are NOT tax free.. they are tax deferred newbies reading this might not know that.

Hands on is great way to safeguard your investments. 

Obviously I desired it or else we wouldn't have done it!

And it is tax free...You do not pay tax on a refinance event. I owe zero in taxes from this process as it's debt, and debt is not taxed.

You obviously pay tax on a sale...but we aren't selling, thus it was a tax free event.

not to argue with you but its tax differed NOT tax free.. big difference but still works..

 Thanks for sharing your insights

Post: Just closed THREE cash out refinances on three of our Multifamily rentals!

Tony Stephan
Agent
Posted
  • Investor
  • Metro-Detroit, MI
  • Posts 63
  • Votes 54
Quote from @Gino Barbaro:

@Tony Stephan

Congrats! Great way to continue to grow your portfolio!

@Gino Barbaro Ty! Loved your podcast with Robert Martinez. He is a good friend of ours.