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All Forum Posts by: Tony Nguyen

Tony Nguyen has started 83 posts and replied 346 times.

Post: Do people actually lose money in MF syndications?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56
Originally posted by @Brian Burke:

A couple years after the great real estate collapse I bought a property for half of what the last guy paid. I bought it for the amount of his loan. His investors lost everything. 

Then shortly after I bought it the great financial collapse happened.  Jobs were lost, occupancy fell, delinquencies skyrocketed. It didn’t take long for the income to fall so far that there was not enough income left to service the debt. Because of the economy and the income, the property was now worth less than my loan.  My investors stood to lose 100% of their investment. The only thing that saved them—I started making the $15K monthly payment out of my own pocket, and did that for a few YEARS until the economy rebounded and eventually we sold.  Investors actually ended up with a small profit.  I wrote about the experience here:  https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/colossal-fail/

So can investors lose it all?  Hell yes. Those of us that have lived through cycles appreciate this and treat real estate like a loaded firearm.  Those who haven’t tout “everybody needs a place to live,” and “multifamily is the safest investment because...”  Don’t be fooled.  If you are considering investing as a passive investor in a syndication, it is a great asset class and can be enormously successful.  Stack the deck in your favor and choose sponsors that fear the dangers with the same passion as they appreciate the upside.

@Brian, I just read your Colossal Fail article and it's wonderful! In a time like Q2 of 2019, are you still buying MF properties via syndication or non-syndication? If so, what is your strategy buying towards the end of the market cycle?  

@Asa, I've seen it happen before and almost every time, it was due to poor structuring of the debt. The bank is your best friend when you're looking to buy at 70 - 75% LTV, but when the market declines and your loan balance is 90-95% LTV, looking for a refinance is much tougher then most think.

Post: How Was Your Refinance During The Crash?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56

@Bjorn Ahlblad what is your definition of "heavily leveraged"? 

Post: How Was Your Refinance During The Crash?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56

Thank you @Bjorn Ahlblad, I appreciate your input. Besides cash, are here any other precautionary measures you'd take to be in the best position possible? 

Post: How Was Your Refinance During The Crash?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56

Hi everyone,

All the multifamily properties I’ve purchased in the past few years have either 5 or 10 year balloon dates on them. For the veterans who were investing in the market and had their loans come due around the 2009-2011 years, how did it go? Did you have a hard time refinancing your loan? What would you do now to prepare yourself for better chances of getting your refinance done should a similar crash happen again?

I'm doing my best to secure my portfolio for the years when financing is tougher and my balloon payments become due.

Thank you in advance!

What part of Florida? I know a few. Also, what are you looking for?

I sent you a private message, good luck Leon. 

Post: How Much Cash Reserves Do You Set Aside?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56

Hi everyone,

What amount do you set aside towards your reserves fund for your properties? For example:

  • X% of gross cash flow
  • X months of operating expenses
  • $X per square feet

For me, I was debating 6 months of operating expenses (mortgage, property taxes, all operating cost, etc), but I didn't have a "why" so was unsure how other investors planned for it. The reserves fund would be saved specifically for emergencies of vacancies, unexpected capital expenditures, etc.

Thank you! 

Post: How Did You Win in 2008 With Apartments?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56
Mark Allen - yes, C areas would probably be the first to get hit so I wanted to plan as best as possible. Will definitely keep an eye on the LTV and maturity dates of the loans. Thanks for chiming in. James Kojo - ok, I’ll stress test them. I didn’t buy the first one with a 10 year balloon until 2016 so I think I’m ok for now. Regarding cash, how do you determine how much cash to have on hand aka an emergency fund?

Post: How Did You Win in 2008 With Apartments?

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56

Hi all,

I'd like to ask the veterans how their apartments performed during the crash 10 years ago. My portfolio grew the most in just the past couple of years so I didn't experience what it was like being a Landlord during the crash. When looking at my portfolio of apartments, I ask myself where I see risk, which I know it's there, but I can't find it:

  • The mortgages are all on 10-15 year balloons 
  • No capital improvements are needed as all units were renovated once purchased
  • I bought B-class properties in C-class neighborhoods at 9-10%+ cap rates 
  • Our overall LTV is about 60%
  • Overall revenue is over $675K a year (ie, one property can cover the other should there be surprises, etc)
  • I have a management team who only manages my properties, not a third party

If you see where I can further protect my portfolio, please feel free to share because I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thank you in advance! 

Post: Syndication Pitch Book/Pitch Deck Examples

Tony NguyenPosted
  • Investor
  • Tampa, FL
  • Posts 377
  • Votes 56
Originally posted by @Cara Lonsdale:

@Tony Nguyen  Would love a copy of your syndication pitch book to compare it to the one we have.  Thanks!

Happy to help! Send me your email and I'll shoot it over :) 

@Jose Perez - Glad you found it insightful!