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All Forum Posts by: Tom Kairys

Tom Kairys has started 5 posts and replied 25 times.

Post: Flooring/ Remodeling guy considering to move to Naples, FL

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6
Michael Smoczynski just to be clear on my business situation. I have plenty of work here in Chicagoland. I think I am at the point where I cannot raise my prices anymore (at least with builders) and therefore it feels that I am not progressing. I make what I make and that’s it. I’ve been in business for 17 years and been mainly working on high end houses. So, it’s not that I am looking for more work, I actually want to get out eventually from what I am doing. That’s why I turned into REI. However, I know that I will need my skillset for REI at least for sometime until I will become more successful.

Post: Flooring/ Remodeling guy considering to move to Naples, FL

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6
Great comments, thanks. I wouldn’t be W2 worker, I am a sub. But that’s what I heard that it’s big shortage of skilled labor in FL, particularly Naples as a lot of rich retirees are moving there. So, my idea was to start doing there the same as I am doing here in Chicago -lay tile. And then maybe transition to something else in real estate arena, flipping, brrrr.... .However, would like to know some contacts there (in Naples) as to where to get some work once we move. Thought to get some recommendations here at BP or ideas for that matter.

Post: Flooring/ Remodeling guy considering to move to Naples, FL

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6
Hello BP, I live in Naperville, IL. We have two little ones (2.5year old and the newborn). My wife is stay at home mom and I work in construction (flooring-ceramic, hardwood as well as remodeling). I’ve been in this business for 17 years. Been trying to get into flipping for the past year but it seems that all good deals are going off the mls. Investor friendly agents all seems to do cash deals only and they want to see around 150k (which I only have closer to 50k). It just seems that I haven’t been progressing here in IL lately (in terms of REI and my own work) and that kind of frustrates me. Having said that, we are planning on selling our 2 bed townhome and then either look for something livable well below market here in Chicagoland, regah it and sell it in a year or two. But seems like it will be hard. First finding the deal like that and then trying to renovate with two small kids. So, the other alternative, which most likely we will take, will be renting SFH. So, we figured if we will be renting then might as well try other markets. And that’s where Florida comes in, since we travel there a lot and we actually used to have timeshare in Palm Beach. However, I heard Naples area is doing really great. So, my question would be to the investors/ contractors living there, how is the construction market there? Anybody knows any good builders or GCs looking for good tile guy (references available). Also, are there decent investment opportunities or anybody willing to partner on the flipping side? And finally, which areas would you recommend to look for rentals that are not far from the beaches and not far commute to Naples. We were looking Fort Myers area. Seems like you could get nicer homes than in Naples for same prices. Thank you for any input on my situation.Thank you for your advice!

Post: Flooring/ Remodeling guy considering the move to Naples, FL

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6
Hello BP, I live in Naperville, IL. We have two little ones (2.5year old and the newborn). My wife is stay at home mom and I work in construction (flooring-ceramic, hardwood as well as remodeling). I’ve been in this business for 17 years. Been trying to get into flipping for the past year but it seems that all good deals are going off the mls. Investor friendly agents all seems to do cash deals only and they want to see around 150k (which I only have closer to 50k). It just seems that I haven’t been progressing here in IL lately (in terms of REI and my own work) and that kind of frustrates me. Having said that, we are planning on selling our 2 bed townhome and then either look for something livable well below market here in Chicagoland, regah it and sell it in a year or two. But seems like it will be hard. First finding the deal like that and then trying to renovate with two small kids. So, the other alternative, which most likely we will take, will be renting SFH. So, we figured if we will be renting then might as well try other markets. And that’s where Florida comes in, since we travel there a lot and we actually used to have timeshare in Palm Beach. However, I heard Naples area is doing really great. So, my question would be to the investors/ contractors living there, how is the construction market there? Anybody knows any good builders or GCs looking for good tile guy (references available). Also, are there decent investment opportunities or anybody willing to partner on the flipping side? And finally, which areas would you recommend to look for rentals that are not far from the beaches and not far commute to Naples. We were looking Fort Myers area. Seems like you could get nicer homes than in Naples for same prices. Thank you for any input on my situation.Thank you for your advice!

Post: Keep my underwater property or dump it?

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6
Hard to refinance when you are so much underwater..

Post: DuPage County Real Estate Investors Meetup

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6

will definately try to make it.

Post: DuPage County Real Estate Investors Meetup

Tom KairysPosted
  • Naperville, IL
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 6

I am new in this rodeo. Interested to explore new opportunities. Will definately try to make it tonight. Thanks!

All good suggestion and comments! Thanks to all! I'll definately proceed with caution

@Nino Alfano if I choose buy & hold propery then he in a sense wholesale property to me for $5k and charge $1,500 to micromanage the rehab because he cannot do 50/50 on buy & hold.

Where do you find a free mentor, otherwise?

This is what he emailed me:

I don't know your current financial situation. So I think it's up to you, if you flip first or buy and hold first. If you have enough funds, you could 2 at a time. Flip one and hold one. Just don't spread yourself too thin financially! It would probably be best if we talked on the phone about it. Keep in mind too, that I can get you into a buy and hold property, with outstanding cash flow, for under $50,000. So I don't know if that helps you decide what to do. The flips would be higher priced. We would want to flip in a city where the property will move quickly.

As far as rehab costs, I rely on my contractor to calculate all of that. I'm fairly good at estimating the cost, but he always comes in to give me a "final" cost. He's not the cheapest guy on the block, but you get what you pay for. He's very honest, works hard and gets the jobs done right and on time. It actually took me 3 years to find a good contractor that didn't "screw" me or do lousy work! I would bet you could walk into a house and give an approximate cost. But that's what I have Rick for. He's the pro.

As far as the split on a flip, the 50% is paid on the back end, after the house sells. It wouldn't be fair or ethical, to ask for it upfront. If you think about it, by me getting paid on the back end, I have skin in the game too. I want to be able to put as much money in my pocket as I can, as well as yours, so that's also my incentive to find a good house to flip.

As far as a buy & hold property, you actually make out better financially than on a flip. We'll still put you through the entire training program, as if you're flipping a house. But we make our money through the sale of the property to you. So if the house sells to you for say, $70,000, I'd would most likely take a commission of no more than $5,000 at the closing table. The price you pay for the house, would already have my fee built in. I can't take much more than $5k, otherwise the house won't cash flow very well! There is also a $1500 fee to "micro manage" the rehab. I like to be there to make sure things are going smoothly. The benefit of having Rick (the owner of the rehab company), as my contractor, is that I can trust him. But I still want to know everything that goes on and make sure the work is done correctly. I don't want your tenant complaining that things are breaking down! But Rick has certified inspectors check everything out, to make sure the "equipment" will last, or he'll replace it.

So we can go either way. It just depends upon your financial situation and what your goals are. I can help you with that, if you'd like someone to make a suggestion on how to do this. Having specific goals are important.

I also have a "quiz" that I'd like you to take. It's not real long, but it allows us to assess where you're at in the real estate business. It also helps us develop a specific training program that will help get you into the business a lot quicker than on your own. That's the whole purpose of the program. We want you to learn as much as possible and as quickly as possible. For example, if you already know how to calculate ARV ( after repair value), we'll still discuss it, but we won't spend a lot of time on it. If you're not sure how to negotiate a deal or how to find one, we'll spend a lot of time in that area. This way, you become well versed in that particular area. So let me now where you'd like to go from here. We do need to talk about your finances and make sure you're comfortable with what you spend. So give me a call when you have time to talk. It's usually best if you text me about 30 minutes before you're ready to call and then I'll try to make sure I'm available and I'll text you back.

I hope I answered your questions and I look forward to working together!

Thanks,

Scott I asked him over the phone why would he split the profit when he can collect the whole 100% besides the fact that he cares about "giving back"? He explained that he has partners working with him, therefore he has some free time. Also, he offers to answer the questions newbies have about REI. So, he gets overwhelmed and doesn't get paid. So, that's another reason he came up with program so he can get rewarded/ paid for the effort. I know it's up to me what I'll decide to do, but from all the googling, interviewing him, and no money upfront, he sounds legit to me. I just wasn't sure if his fees are fair. We will meet with him face to face and he will show me some rehabbed properties he did and familiarize me with his progrom even more. Basically it's hard to find the mentor willing to help (if there is one out there). So guess we have to start somewhere. I'll keep you posted. Thanks to All!