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All Forum Posts by: TJ Woolum

TJ Woolum has started 10 posts and replied 28 times.

Post: Masterminds - Scale Up!

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone. I currently have 8 SFH in the Decatur, IL and Springfield, IL areas. Each cashflow pretty well but the opportunity for appreciation is slim. I'm also finding that a single large repair can wipe out a whole year of income, making me wonder if cheaper cashflowing properties is the right play. As I dive into all the different paths I can take (single family vs multi-family, short term vs long term, cash flow vs appreciation, local vs out of state, etc..) my mind is scrambling and I've ended up doing nothing at all.

I'm looking to join a mastermind that meets consistently and can really motivate one another to take our businesses to the next level.  I'm willing to pay to join the right group.  Where do I even start?

Thanks in advance!

Post: Refinance for Line of Credit

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19
Quote from @Matthew Crivelli:

@TJ Woolum

How much are these houses worth currently?

Seem like profit margins are really slim. Can you afford to reduce cashflow by 800 per month on top of paying monthly on an additional 60k LOC?

Why didn't you buy the properties that needed work with a rehab loan from the start? I feel like you are biting off more than you can chew and this whole scenario makes me nervous. 

Why not sell of one or two of the properties to fix up and stabilize the rest? You have decent rates and IDK if leveraging yourself more is a smart idea in this market. 

Thanks for the reply Matthew.  You’re right, my equity is pretty tight.  Most loans were made with only 10% to 15% down.  My monthly cashflow is about $3,000 per month after fees and expenses.

Honestly most houses were purchased almost turnkey so I didn’t have a flip in mind.  As for the others that do need renovations, I was more interested in getting the rent now and worry about repairs later. (Lesson learned!). 

 I have about $30k (each) equity in two of my properties but I really hate to sell them because they have the biggest upside long term. If I sell any of the others I wouldn’t make much money at all since there’s not much equity. At best it would simply take potential risk of future repairs off my hands. 

Post: Refinance for Line of Credit

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone,

I currently have a portfolio of 10 SFH rentals. 6 of these are on 30 year conventional mortgages with rates anywhere from 3.18% to 5.25%. 3 are on a 5/20 ARM at 5.1% and 1 I just closed on a 5/20 ARM at 6.8%.

Two of the houses I own need substantial renovations. I would like to flip them and BRRRR or sell outright but I'm out of money. My banker can give me a $60k line of credit but he wants to refinance these properties all into one commercial loan (5/20 ARM). Of course this rate is significantly worse than what I currently have on most of the properties and I estimate it will Increase my monthly mortgage (escrowed) payment by about $800 thus reducing my cashflow.

So my question is this… Do I eat the $800 reduction in monthly cashflow for a chance to get the line of credit, flip these houses, and pull out the cash? For context, each house needs $20k to $30k of renovation and will profit (after paying off mortgage and LOC) about $20k once sold.

Post: SFH vs Multi-Family Cash Flow

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

Thank you Mike. Have you found your “magic number” of doors where multi-family makes sense to you?  Just curious what your experience has been. 

Post: SFH vs Multi-Family Cash Flow

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone,

I currently have 5 SFH rentals all cash flowing roughly $350/mo after expenses and mortgages. My goal is to have 35 doors in the next 5 years and assumed multi-family deals is the easiest way to get there. Plus folks like Grant Cardone keep beating it in my head that you need multi-families in order to scale and build wealth. However, I've looked into several multi-family apartments in my area and found that they're only cash flowing $300 - $700 per month after all expenses and mortgages. (These are not metered out so gas/electric and water/sewer is killing the cash flow). I can take the same investment and buy multiple SFH that would cashflow three times as much.

What am I missing? How much cashflow are you getting from multi-families compared to SFH? better yet… what ROI are you getting compared to SFH? I understand it's much easier to buy a 6 unit building than it is to buy 6 houses, but just having more doors doesn't seem to generate the same amount of cashflow. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong deals??

Thanks!

TJ


Post: My Story So Far (And A Couple Banking Questions)

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

Hello fellow investors,

I want to give a quick overview of my real estate investing story so far and then get into a couple questions regarding banking and financing.  

I've always had an interest in real estate investing.  In high school and college I started reading up on how to invest and how to build wealth, and it seemed that everyone with considerable wealth listed real estate as a source of income.  I come from a blue-collar family whose patriarch was often unemployed due to multiple factory shut-downs so the only money advice I was ever given was to get a good office job and invest in my 401k.  Anything even slightly risky was not only frowned upon but adamantly discouraged.  Fear based decisions were the only decisions allowed and that mentality still sticks with me today whether I like it or not.

Through college I started looking into flipping houses, buying storage facilities, etc... but never pursued it due to the lack of certainty and the risk involved.  Again, that fear mentioned above.  Fast forward many years to when I was 37 y/o and finally decided to pull the trigger.  I purchased a single family home in an area I knew would have no problem filling vacancies and would generate decent rent.  Finally... an investment property!  Still, it was a safe purchase so while the rent is good, the purchase price leaves little for cashflow.  After I bought that property I waited to see how it would all go.  2 years went by with no problems at all, so I decided to buy another property.  This time I purchased a single family home for only $37k.  The property was in decent shape and really didn't need much other than paint and some flooring.  The cashflow on this one was great.  I sat another year and confirmed the cheaper house was generating great cashflow consistently so in July of this year I bought another house for $55k.  A couple weeks later I bought another house for $53k and two weeks after that I have another two houses under contract for $22k and $33k.  Needless to say I caught the bug!

Most of these houses have been financed through a local bank with the down payment coming from my personal funds.  The down payment for one house was funded by a friend who I pay 8% for two years.  I didn't need the money necessarily but I wanted to test out the private funding option plus it freed up some cash for my next purchase.  Another house I am using a 401k loan to purchase outright without a bank.  While I hate taking a loan from my 401k the interest is only 4.3% and it is paid back to me rather than a bank.  Plus I will have the house paid off in less than 5 years where it will completely cashflow!  

So that is it for my personal real-estate journey.  As you can see I took it painstakingly slow at first but now I've started generating some steam!

Now for my questions. All in all I currently have 6 mortgages with the same bank. (5 rentals and 1 personal home). They're all in my personal name but I will soon put them in my LLC. I really want my next purchase to be a 4-plex and would consider using the same bank. I'm nervous though...

1.  What are your thoughts on the number of mortgages to have with the same bank?  I understand the limits applied by Fannie Mae, but just for diversification purposes would it be wise to start looking at a different bank?

2. Has anyone had an issue with loans being called when you transfer the deed to your LLC? Technically this could trigger a call since the bank could look at this similarly to you selling the property, correct?

These questions are fear-based, I understand.  I just want to make sure the banks don't find a loophole to call my loans if we see another bubble burst like in 08.  


Thanks!

Post: Decatur, IL, Rental Deals

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

@Jay Young. Late response here but how did this turn out? I have one rental in Decatur and so far it has done well for me.

Post: Springfield, IL and Decatur, IL Investor

TJ WoolumPosted
  • Investor
  • Chatham, IL
  • Posts 28
  • Votes 19

Hello everyone. I am a new(ish) investor in Central Illinois. I have a SFR in Forsyth, IL and another in Decatur, IL but looking to getting into multi-families. I've been listening to BiggerPockets for a few years now and up until recently I've just been taking it slow. This year I really hope to grow and get more doors. Still looking in the Decatur area but I'm moving to Chatham soon so I'll be looking in Springfield as well. Any local investors here?

COVID has certainly put a damper on things but I'd really like to meet up with some people in the area.  Also looking to join the Springfield Area Landlord Association.  Anyone else here belong?