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All Forum Posts by: Tim Braun

Tim Braun has started 11 posts and replied 30 times.

Post: Looking For HML Recommendations for Fix and Flip near Syracuse NY

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17

Hey everyone, I am working on purchasing a fix and flip and am looking for some recommendations on HML's near the Syracuse NY area, or close enough.

I have the property under contract and time is running out, but you live and you learn. I started with Quickline and wasted 15 days before they could tell me the property was too "rural", now they are trying some second option with LimaOne... just feels like I'm getting the run-around with them.

I'm meeting with Syracuse Hard Money soon, they seem like they might be promising. I got in touch with someone from Backflip but I'm not sure what to think of that company. Does anyone have any other recommendations?

Post: Are there any wholesalers in the Upstate Central New York Area? Looking to network.

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17

Hi all, I am looking to branch out of flipping into wholesaling as a way to generate more leads for my flips so I can work on scaling. Are there any wholesalers in the Upstate or central NY area on here? Syracuse, Rochester, Geneva, Auburn, Ithaca, Cortland, Fingerlakes area, etc.? Would anyone be open to chatting about wholesaling a bit? I am willing to add value in return if I can.

Post: Considering investing in a SFH FSBO on a Hill (Sort of)

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17

This is going to be hard to explain, I wish I had a picture, but I think I already know the answer. 

I am considering investing in a SFH 3/1 as a rental in a rural area. I work in the area currently, I have a pretty good idea on demand and am confident its there. My concern is more about the house itself. Its an older home, 100ish years old as a lot are in my area. It definitely needs some work on the inside and outside, but I think I can get it at a good price and do the repairs so that it makes sense. My plan would be to purchase, rehab, rent it out, then sell it.

My concern is its sort of on a hill... so the house is on flat land but one corner of the house is very close to a steep hill, as in you can see some of the foundation on the side of the hill. The hill is so steep to where you could almost walk on it. The house has also been there for 100+ years so maybe it has always been like that, or maybe its new - I'm not sure. My concern is that eventually it could erode enough to where its an issue - so I would be hesitant to hold it long term based on that. I think it could be fixed, but it wouldn't make sense for me to do it. MY initial strategy would be to buy as a deal, add value, then refinance and get my money back out of it but I'm worried the bank wouldn't refinance the house based on that.

There are a few other exit strategies, there is enough land there that I could buy, hold it, and put a mobile/manufactured home on the other end of the lot then knock down the current house once it reaches end of life. The area is rural, its not far from a nice lake area and wineries so there's a few possibilities in that avenue.

I'm just getting started in houses, I'm not looking to buy everything but I want to make sure I learn why I shouldn't buy, especially since I could get into this pretty cheap. Has anyone ran into this before? Anyone have any thoughts? My gut is telling me don't bother.

Post: Wholesaling in Central/Upstate New York - Contract Friendly Title Companies

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17

Hello all, is there anyone on here that is wholesaling in the central NY area that I could ask a few questions of?

Does anyone know of any good title companies that handle assignment contracts?

I'm just getting my feet wet and thought some networking would be good to do while I start to get things moving.

Post: Abandoned house, owner has been deceased for 6 years, now what?

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Ibrahim Hughes:

@Tim Braun

You didn't specifically stated but what exactly is the tax status? Or the taxes current?

Did you check for mortgages on the property to confirm there's equity?

I'm a big proponent of doing your research on abandoned properties before reaching out to the property owner. There are several reasons for this but my top reason is to make sure you have all the Intel in case the seller has some mythical objection for selling the property.

One of the more popular ones is that "the bank owns it already". I like to do my research and confirm that the person still owns the property, not the bank, and can therefore still make money on it by selling it.

Thanks Ibrahim, this is the kind of information I was looking for.

The taxes look like they are current - is there a sure fire way to check?

Is there a good way to check the equity, or if a bank owns it? I see the taxes are being charged to the deceased, I know that, I'm just not sure what the next layer is - if its in probate, maybe his estate is taking care of it, or his heirs, etc.

My next step is to call the assessor and see if they know anything. Its a "small town" so even if they don't they still might know something or someone.

Post: Abandoned house, owner has been deceased for 6 years, now what?

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17

Good morning all, I wanted to see if anyone had any ideas with this.

I found a house that could be a decent flip (from the outside at least). It looks like it has been abandoned for years so I found the persons name who has been paying the taxes, then I found out they passed away 6 years ago.

I'm not sure where to go with it now, some other homes I have run into like this are either in a trust or have been transferred to heirs but there seems to be nothing going on. I'm not sure who to contact, does anyone have recommendations on what could be a good next step?

Post: Deciding if I should fix and sell or fix and hold/rent

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17

Turns out the tree next to the house has a root that's pushing into the basement wall, the foundation is going to need some repair which isn't too scary, but this isn't a good first investment for me.

Post: Deciding if I should fix and sell or fix and hold/rent

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Tim Braun:
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Tim Braun:

Good morning all, I have my first deal that I am working on and I am trying to figure out the best exit strategies:

1. Fix and sell

2. Fix, rent, refinance

This is a single family home - 2/1 but I may be able to make it a 3/1. I have a purchase price of $35k, ARV of $80-$90k, I am thinking about $15k worth of repairs, maybe $20k if I can add a room. There isn't much wrong with it, it needs interior paint, flooring, updating in the kitchen and bathrooms - it was a rental and the owner is sick of getting bad tenants. The only major issue I have seen is that the living room floor is sagging but I didn't see any major issues from the basement. I'm working on getting an inspector in there to investigate that and make sure the foundation is fine, lets assume it is for this conversation.

I am bouncing between using hard money to purchase, rehab, and take my profit or using a conventional loan plus doing a light rehab, rent it out, then refinance. I guess I wasn't super excited about keeping it as a rental as I was hoping to target multi-family homes, but I also think I'll be into it at a decent price point that it wouldn't be bad to hold on to for a while. I have been flipping mobile homes for a while now so I have a little experience with finding qualified tenants and contractors but nothing in buy and hold rentals so maybe I'm just not thinking about it the right way.

Does anyone else have any thoughts? Anything else that I should be looking at? Like I said, I'm not an expert, I've been successful with mobiles and am looking to step over into flips and holds so that I can scale.


That price point should bring some solid cash flow in upstate New York and the taxes on the income if you sell would be significant. I think I'd fix it and keep it for a little while and see what kind of profit you're making. If you use a hard money loan for acquisition and to pay for the renovations, you'll have to consider carrying costs while the title seasons and bear in mind that you will have a hard time getting a DSCR loan for long term at that value so conventional or a credit union that will hold the loan in their portfolio will be your best bet for long term financing.


Thanks Stephanie, I think we are thinking the same way. I don't see a lot of negatives if I buy and hold it. I have been coming across qualified renters left and right as I try to sell mobiles so I have decent confidence about filling it. There is a good neighbor on the left who would love me to clean the place up some, a duplex on the right with what I'm told are decent tenants. I was also going to look into accepting section 8 - still researching that though. But if renting doesn't work I think I could sell it and still come out ahead.

Luckily I found a good local bank that will hold the loan and that I have been talking with. They understand the situation, the BRRRR, and seem to want to work with me. I think going the conventional route and holding is going to be my best bet.

And since you mentioned it... what kind of carrying costs would apply here? I'm not saying there wouldn't be any, I'm just looking to learn all that I can.


 Monthly payment on the loans (the initial loan for purchase and rehab and then the loan for long term hold).  You may not be able to refinance it until the property has stabilized (seasoned title and you have a tenant) so the monthly payments you'll have to make before getting any return is what I'd call carrying costs.  Depending on taxes and insurance, the payment could end up being 6-700 dollars per month until you get a tenant.


 Thanks Stephanie, that's everything I have been planning for so that's good.

Post: Deciding if I should fix and sell or fix and hold/rent

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Stephanie P.:
Quote from @Tim Braun:

Good morning all, I have my first deal that I am working on and I am trying to figure out the best exit strategies:

1. Fix and sell

2. Fix, rent, refinance

This is a single family home - 2/1 but I may be able to make it a 3/1. I have a purchase price of $35k, ARV of $80-$90k, I am thinking about $15k worth of repairs, maybe $20k if I can add a room. There isn't much wrong with it, it needs interior paint, flooring, updating in the kitchen and bathrooms - it was a rental and the owner is sick of getting bad tenants. The only major issue I have seen is that the living room floor is sagging but I didn't see any major issues from the basement. I'm working on getting an inspector in there to investigate that and make sure the foundation is fine, lets assume it is for this conversation.

I am bouncing between using hard money to purchase, rehab, and take my profit or using a conventional loan plus doing a light rehab, rent it out, then refinance. I guess I wasn't super excited about keeping it as a rental as I was hoping to target multi-family homes, but I also think I'll be into it at a decent price point that it wouldn't be bad to hold on to for a while. I have been flipping mobile homes for a while now so I have a little experience with finding qualified tenants and contractors but nothing in buy and hold rentals so maybe I'm just not thinking about it the right way.

Does anyone else have any thoughts? Anything else that I should be looking at? Like I said, I'm not an expert, I've been successful with mobiles and am looking to step over into flips and holds so that I can scale.


That price point should bring some solid cash flow in upstate New York and the taxes on the income if you sell would be significant. I think I'd fix it and keep it for a little while and see what kind of profit you're making. If you use a hard money loan for acquisition and to pay for the renovations, you'll have to consider carrying costs while the title seasons and bear in mind that you will have a hard time getting a DSCR loan for long term at that value so conventional or a credit union that will hold the loan in their portfolio will be your best bet for long term financing.


Thanks Stephanie, I think we are thinking the same way. I don't see a lot of negatives if I buy and hold it. I have been coming across qualified renters left and right as I try to sell mobiles so I have decent confidence about filling it. There is a good neighbor on the left who would love me to clean the place up some, a duplex on the right with what I'm told are decent tenants. I was also going to look into accepting section 8 - still researching that though. But if renting doesn't work I think I could sell it and still come out ahead.

Luckily I found a good local bank that will hold the loan and that I have been talking with. They understand the situation, the BRRRR, and seem to want to work with me. I think going the conventional route and holding is going to be my best bet.

And since you mentioned it... what kind of carrying costs would apply here? I'm not saying there wouldn't be any, I'm just looking to learn all that I can.

Post: Deciding if I should fix and sell or fix and hold/rent

Tim BraunPosted
  • Flipper/Rehabber
  • Union Springs, NY
  • Posts 31
  • Votes 17
Quote from @John Swann:

Hey Tim,

This is awesome, especially if you can add a room.

While your "fix" might be different if you sell vs. rent, at the end of the day I would consider what does the money you get allow you to do. 

If you're going to make $20k+ after getting all costs back when you sell, what does that new sum of money allow you to do?

Alternatively, if you can refinance and be at net-zero cash in the deal, what does the monthly cash flow allow you to achieve? If you have to leave some cash in the deal, same question to consider. In this scenario, you'd want to consider your cash-on-cash return and your total ROI (which will include depreciaton, cash flow, ammortization and appreciation).

I'd love to hear what you decide and how you decide to move in that direction.


Thanks John, that's what I've been trying to figure out. I think either way I end up with roughly $20k out of the deal, but in only one do I get to keep the cash flow.

I think I'm going to end up holding it and renting it but we'll see. This will be my first "real" deal and also my first "real" learning experience.