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All Forum Posts by: Tiffany Da Silva

Tiffany Da Silva has started 6 posts and replied 12 times.

Hello All,

I have been investing for the last 4 years in real estate and am on the way to purchasing my 3rd property (a flip :)

I am having a hard time knowing how I should organize my incomes, expenses, taxes, ect for easy bookeeping, to help keep everything separate legally, & to produce income on the money sitting in the accounts.


I can only explain my ideal thoughts in a graphic design so i will include that here:

Does this make sense in order to maximize profits & keep things organized? 

Few notes: I will not touch the money in these accounts unless the income is being used to buy a flip or another property, which is about 10 months for me so that money will be sitting there.

I am considering a HYSA from Capital one as i saw as of today their APY is 4+% with a minimum deposit of $10K

I will be using baselane to organize and manage these transactions.

Any criticism / advice is welcome :)

Quote from @Amber Stout:

Hi Tiffany, some conventional guidelines allow for the use of "boarder income". Typically they will need to see 12 months of documented income from the property. How long has the unit been rented for at this time? Feel free to DM me and we can walk through it. 


 Hey Amber, The home hasn't been rented just yet as we are finishing up renovations & we just purchased it 6 months ago. I think that is the biggest issue but perhaps next year when my income is better I might be able to use both my income and the boarder income.

Quote from @Ko Kashiwagi:

Hi Tiffany,

Have you thought of using investor-focuses financing programs like DSCR? A lot of investors navigate this by using rental income to qualify rather than personal income.


 Hey Ko! Thank you for the idea! I actually just did a dscr loan to pay off the hard money I borrowed on the second property (where we live and rent the actual house) I estimate the appraisal to come in around $215-280K which if I were to take out 80% would barley give me enough to buy anything in the FL market and have cash left over for renovations.

Not sure if im missing a step here or if it might be best to buy an auction home with that cash to flip and have more capital to have more deal options. 

I would love to hear your thoughts :)

Quote from @Randall Alan:
Quote from @Tiffany Da Silva:

Hello Everyone,

I currently have 2 rental properties averaging $3,300/month in cashflow. I have 1 mortgage in my name (about $1500/month). My income is on the lower side since I have declared smaller amounts since 2022. (I still haven't done my 2023 returns since this has been weighing the decision).

That being said, I have a goal to buy another investment property this year and possibly do the BRRR strategy or a flip to get more capital on hand. I currently have 30K cash from the cash out refi I did on another property as well that could serve as a DP.

I would love to hear thoughts on what the best course of action would be to get more cash flowing into the portfolio. I would like to possibly purchase a multiplex 2-4 units that is a proven winner when comparing costs to return. would this be ideal? if so, what would be the best way to get the money to fund this without having to do partnerships?

@Tiffany Da Silva

Hi Tiffany,

Just for clarity - when you say $3,300/month cashflow - that is $3,300 more in income than expenses for the property?  That number seems high if those are financed properties; but possible if they are paid off I suppose.  

Not having done your 2023 return will in all likelihood 'hurt' you somewhat in the short term because lenders will want to see it.  But since you are still within the range of the first extension, you may be alright there.

I'm not sure what you mean when. you say, "Since I declared smaller amounts since 2022".  Are you working?  Are you just living off rental income?

I would encourage you to read up on debt to income ratios (DTI for short). Usually lenders want to see you making more income than your expenses by at 20%. So that is written as a DTI of 1.2.

Here is an explainer from a lender:

https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/debt-to-income-ratio

So if your goals clash with your DTI, you may have to lower your debts before a lender will lend you more money.

You mention 1 mortgage, but then you mention having cash from a cash-out refi on another property - which sounds like another mortgage floating around.  Without all the details it's hard to tell you how to proceed.

What I can tell you is that BRRR is more costly than a rent-ready from a "how much money does it take to pull it off" standpoint. Not only do you have to buy the house, but you also have to have the money to fix it up before you sell it. You don't mention if you will live in one of the units you want to buy or if you have a house yourself. If the BRRRR is not a property you will live in, you will need at a minimum 20% down. The 5% program is for owner occupied multi-unit properties -and I'm pretty sure it isn't intended for BRRRRs... but I don't know all the in's and outs of that. So you mention the $30k in cash. So going with the idea you aren't going to live in it, at 20% this would mean you could possibly buy a $150,000 rent-ready house if your DTI and credit score are good. But then that leaves no money to do a BRRRR - so if you were looking at a BRRRR - you would likely need to lower the price of the house and find one that didn't need much fixing - which is probably a good idea for a beginner BRRRR experience. It gets more complicated if you then need to borrow even more money to do the renovation. My personal suggestion - given what I know of your finances would not be to try and do a BRRRR - especially if you have never done one. There is a much larger learning curve for a renovation project than there is a straight rental - especially if you are not doing the work yourself. It is SOOOooo easy to get ripped off by contractors. The big "rule # 1" is to not pay them all in advance. But there are so many nuances to that topic I can't even start to delve into it here.

Your 2-4 unit theory will be tough.  I live in Florida as well, and a typical duplex these days is probably at least $250,000 in Central Florida.  It can vary based on condition & size... but that is sort of a going rate for an average unit here.

Hope some of that helps.  With more feedback we can improve our answers.

All the best!

Randy

Hey Randy,

Thank you so much for the feedback! I truly have a unique situation as one of my mentors mentioned so I am trying to see what the best decision to do with what I have is. I typically do most of the work myself or hire my handy man who does just about everything and for a great price.

I definitely have more experience in the construction industry than in the mortgage one for now, but I would love to chat further if you're willing to share some of the knowledge you have :) (up to this point it has been only my mother and I investing and we have about 6 properties collectively.)

Thank you for all of the input!!

Quote from @Clint Jusino:
Quote from @Tiffany Da Silva:

Hello Everyone,

I currently have 2 rental properties averaging $3,300/month in cashflow. I have 1 mortgage in my name (about $1500/month). My income is on the lower side since I have declared smaller amounts since 2022. (I still haven't done my 2023 returns since this has been weighing the decision).

That being said, I have a goal to buy another investment property this year and possibly do the BRRR strategy or a flip to get more capital on hand. I currently have 30K cash from the cash out refi I did on another property as well that could serve as a DP.

I would love to hear thoughts on what the best course of action would be to get more cash flowing into the portfolio. I would like to possibly purchase a multiplex 2-4 units that is a proven winner when comparing costs to return. would this be ideal? if so, what would be the best way to get the money to fund this without having to do partnerships?

@Tiffany Da Silva how long have you been at your primary residence? They now have 5% conventional loans you can use on multi family homes now. You can house hack the multi family for a year and then move out. I would look into that arena. Congrats on the 2 properties and that cash flow. That's amazing.


 Thank you for that! We just bought it 6 months ago so I haven't been there for too long. I would definitely consider house hacking again but since we just bought out dream little piece of land to park our movable tiny house its definitely not my first thought. 

I will 100% look into the loan program though and see how maybe I can use it to my benefit :)

Hey Randy,

Thank you so much for the feedback! I truly have a unique situation as one of my mentors mentioned so I am trying to see what the best decision to do with what I have is. I typically do most of the work myself or hire my handy man who does just about everything and for a great price.

I definitely have more experience in the construction industry than in the mortgage one for now, but I would love to chat further if you're willing to share some of the knowledge you have :) (up to this point it has been only my mother and I investing and we have about 6 properties collectively.)

Thank you for all of the input!!

Thanks William for that insight! I actually work for a mortgage company and am a loan officer myself but as I just started i'm trying to wrap my head around all the programs and markets.

My broker doesn't focus on investors so it might be wise to find someone who does and learn from them. I will definitely look into those programs though! :)

Investment Info:

Other buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $135,000
Cash invested: $40,000

I purchased this farm as a place to park out tiny house on wheels & to be able to rent out the house on the property to have a cash-flowing primary residence ;)

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I had been looking for a place to park my tiny house and I figured it would be easier to get a loan on a house than on land - not to mention the infrastructure. So I wanted to purchase something that would not only make me money - but also a place to live.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found this deal on market & we negotiated normally. Original asking was $145K but since the condition was not good we offered $125K and landed in the middle.

How did you finance this deal?

Cash out refi on another property.

How did you add value to the deal?

we renovated EVERYTHING. New plumbing, electrical, well, - shouldn't have any cap x expenses for a while!

What was the outcome?

A great rental that also gives us a place to live.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Rehab went over budget.
Financing is not as easy as it seems...

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Myself (loan officer)
& my mom Lucy Martins which is a realtor :)

Hello Everyone,

I currently have 2 rental properties averaging $3,300/month in cashflow. I have 1 mortgage in my name (about $1500/month). My income is on the lower side since I have declared smaller amounts since 2022. (I still haven't done my 2023 returns since this has been weighing the decision).

That being said, I have a goal to buy another investment property this year and possibly do the BRRR strategy or a flip to get more capital on hand. I currently have 30K cash from the cash out refi I did on another property as well that could serve as a DP.

I would love to hear thoughts on what the best course of action would be to get more cash flowing into the portfolio. I would like to possibly purchase a multiplex 2-4 units that is a proven winner when comparing costs to return. would this be ideal? if so, what would be the best way to get the money to fund this without having to do partnerships?

Hello all!

I recently purchased a small farm (1 acre) with a house that we just finished remodeling. I am planning on renting the house out for roughly $1950 to have some extra income to use when showing income for my next loan. Problem is since its a "single family" residence it can't be my primary & an investment at the same time therefore I can't qualify it as income. (we live in a tiny house on the acre separate from the house)

Has anyone dealt with something similar or know what is the best way to make that income usable for a loan? If not are there any other loan programs that could get capital to buy another investment?