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All Forum Posts by: Thomas Lord

Thomas Lord has started 1 posts and replied 11 times.

Post: Hoping to try my first BRRRR, Finding my core 4.

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Colin, 

I’ve seen clients of our do well in Acton, Canyon Country, Palmdale etc. I would also look at Torrance, San Pedro, Chatsworth and Simi Valley 

Post: New STR manager questions

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Leslie Anne Morris:

Not ever actually doing their jobs is big in the Smoky Mountains.  Also, managing for occupancy only with no care whatsoever to ADR or RevPAR.


 ADR and RevPAR are for sure important metrics. It is essentially a small hotel which of course would be managing for that. Do you have any suggestions on how this would be best shown to the client? Maybe a certain type of software that you have seen? 

Post: New STR manager questions

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Thomas Lord Seems you are really learning on the fly!

Suggest you join www.NARPM.com ASAP to figure out what other basic pitfalls you need to avoid.

Your profile doesn't say anything about have the required real estate broker's license to manage 3rd party properties - you may want to address that ASAP.

It does say you have an RE Agent license, but does your broker know you are managing properties under their license (since you don't have your own broker's license)? Since you are exposing them to additional liability you may want to discuss this with them to avoid crap hitting the fan later when they find out.

We've not heard of any national cleaning companies the successful STR owners & PMC's use. Molly Maids is prohibitively expensive and challenging to schedule quick turns. So, you will have to find, train and manage your own.

Sames goes for maintenance.


 Thank you! Checking out NARPM now! 

Broker is also my business partner in some other investments/long time friend. So, we are kinda jumping into this/learning on the fly together. He's also an attorney. I think we'll make a good main team if we can get our local cleaners/maintenance staff top notch. The idea is to really put the LLs interests first, but that of course comes with a great customer or tenant experience as well. 

Post: New STR manager questions

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Andy Whitcomb:

I currently self manage and I have quite a few concerns about shifting over to 3rd party management. Here are some of them:

1. Marketing/brand: We have built a strong brand and following around our properties, is it possible to maintain that brand with a third party manager and if so would they manage the brand as well as we do?

2. ADR and occupancy: Like many I am concerned that the manager would not maximize the pricing of the units appropriately and would sacrifice either price or occupancy. We feel we sacrifice neither one, but maybe that means we are leaving money on the table since we are 90-95% booked. However our prices are very high for our market.

3.  Property quality and upkeep: We spend a lot of time adjusting and tweaking the property to be the best it can be. This includes improvements to the design, functionality, and guest experience as well as general property maintenance. 

Some reasons we WOULD do property management:

1. Managing cleaners: This is a HUGE pain in the butt. We use all local independent cleaners who live in the neighborhood, this is great because they are very close by and are familiar with our properties, but communication is nearly constant.

2. Maintenance and repairs: If we had a manager who had a solid team in place to quickly and efficiently handle property and hot tub maintenance, that would be great. As long as they actually did it and did a good job. Our properties are fairly rural so timely accessibility is an issue.

3. Managing guests: This one hasn't been that bad because we only have 3 properties right now, and typically our guests are pretty awesome. However, as we scale this will be something that needs to come off my plate.

Thank you! I really appreciate the thoughtful and helpful input! 

Hadn't considered pool/hot tub maintenance, but will definitely add that to the list of required local team members. One that I'm currently managing does have a hot tub, but I've been taking care of that myself because I was a LA city pool Lifeguard/manager in high school/undergrad. A break down or repair would be out of my league though so will for sure need a pro. 

Post: New STR manager questions

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @John Underwood:

Have a iron clad contract, have an attorney review it.

Have top Noth cleaners and check on them to make sure they stay top notch.


 Great call, luckily my business partner is a RE attorney. Excellent point about the cleaners. Any nation wide companies you recommend or is it best to find the top notch ones locally? 

Post: New STR manager questions

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Kevin Coco-Senyszyn:
Quote from @Michael Baum:

Not having proper insurance for being a PM. Managing without the proper licenses.



Yes, not having proper insurance and managing without the proper licenses can definitely be major issues for property management companies. I highly recommend reaching out to @Cameron Moore, he is a great insurance broker and can help ensure that you have the coverage you need to protect yourself and your business.

Thank you! I will definitely reach out to him!

Post: New STR manager questions

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Hi guys, 

Starting out in the STR management space and have a couple currently under management from friends and family relationships. Ive been browsing the forums and trying to find the biggest issues LLs have with property management companies in this space and it seems like they boil down to:

Not handling fees in the LLs best interest 

Setting expectations early on and putting those in the contract 

The PMC having too many properties under management 

Just plain terrible customer service to LL clients. 

Am I missing anything? Want to make sure that I am informed and able to provide the best service in my own area. I figured it would be best to reach out and hear it from you guys who are actually experiencing the issues/pain points or benefitting from really great property management. 

Appreciate any help, thank you!

Ive heard the city of big bear lake has much more regulation than county/ the surrounding areas. I recently had a client who bought a STR in nearby SugarLoaf to avoid this. There is a RE agent named Kathie Burby there who is knowledgeable on the city and county regs. I would definitely recommend reaching out to her very helpful.

Post: Hoping to try my first BRRRR, Finding my core 4.

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Don, 

I think the BRRRR strategy works in some areas of Los Angeles county, happy to connect and chat more. Let me know if you would like to chat more.

Post: Getting money to renovate rental that mom has a heloc on?

Thomas LordPosted
  • Property Manager
  • Southern California
  • Posts 11
  • Votes 3

Hi Abel, 

What area is the property in?

This looks like an easy private money roll into a conventional mortgage scenario. At least thats the route I would take. Main question would be about the current lease? is tenant month to month? or is there another way to get in there to rehab while maintaining your lease with the tenant?