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All Forum Posts by: Shane M

Shane M has started 25 posts and replied 105 times.

Post: Running the numbers - How low will they go (banks)

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

Property is still sitting, I'm watching comps in the area and nothing seems to be selling in this neighborhood. A lot of bank owned properties. I've been using Eppraisel and Cyberhomes for comps and there have been no changes. Anyone have alternatives that have worked for them?

Post: Jon Stewart Interviews Jim Cramer

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

I wonder if CNBC paid Cramer to take the heat for the whole mess, to detract from the fact that he isn't the only person at fault, why else would he volunteer to be humiliated? Strange

Post: How does real estate CEOs get rich from IPOs?

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

Hey Tiara, I appreciate your enthusiasm for success, but with only so much time in a day you will probably have to (if you aren't already) pick and chose as to what your focus is going to be. I'm not saying you can't do all of those things, but you will probably save time by focusing on one, becoming experienced at it, then focus on another.

As franklin mentioned it would help you to get good credit and stable income before you get involved in RE investing. That's not the only option, but it is a reasonable one. You could finish your degree, get a job in one of the industries you mentioned (which will help you become a real pro at that industry) and using your income invest in RE on the side.

You could try to start your own company in any of the industries you mentioned, but without experience in them, I'm not sure how you would grow your client base, etc. Of course this could just be ignorance on my part.

Good luck!

Post: Sell or Rent my house?

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

Nichola, when it comes to renting out a property a good tool newbies (like myself) use to calculate if a rental property is a potential deal is something called the 50% rule.

Realistically if you are renting out any property you are going to have unexpected expenses (repairs), months of vacancy, property taxes, etc. The 50% rule is simply taking your rental income and cutting it in half to account for all of those misc. expenses EXCEPT the mortgage payment. The mortgage payment is subtracted after you take the 50%. Then you arrive at your "cashflow" number, which is effectively how much you will make or lose on the property every month.

In your situation:
2600/2 = 1300
1300 - 2500 (mortgage)
= -1200 of cashflow

So I would have to agree you want to get out of this property ASAP. Every month you stay, you lose more money. Your house would then have to appreciate by 1200 each month in order to make up for these massive losses.

Now the 50% rule is more of a guiding tool, but in your case it is clearly a bad deal.

Post: Jon Stewart Interviews Jim Cramer

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

In this type of financial environment, people are angry and are always looking for a good outlet for that anger. Cramer was the outlet this time around.

Not that Jon Stewart was wrong (the fact that Jim Cramer has a show about making money without much work besides listening to him screams scam). But Jim Cramer is just the face of a much bigger accountability problem.

CNBC and much of the popular financial media have been pushing long-term investing (by setting aside X amount of dollars and giving it to the financial companies to manage for you in whatever mechanism exists) for a long time. Trust us with your money and we will earn you 10-25% a year without any work required from you. That sounds like a scam too, doesn't it? And then in the background you have these companies manipulating the funds that ordinary people entrust to them.

If you are going to invest your money in the stock market, you should plan on keeping yourself informed about what you have your money in and how those companies are performing. Otherwise find another mechanism of investing that you can monitor.

I think a much wiser investment, and one that you would have a lot more control over would be starting a business. Sure, you may fail, but if you learn from your experience in the long-term you will succeed. And for the most part you control your own success.

Post: "Worst house on block"

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

"The banks pricing seems to have very little to do with logic and more to do with what they have "in" a house."

Yes, sometimes banks need to leave their houses on the market to remind themselves that what they want isn't necessarily what the house is worth!

Post: "Worst house on block"

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4
Originally posted by cucaloco:

The banks pricing seems to have very little to do with logic and more to do with what they have "in" a house. Chase the deals, start with a 10 mile circle that will become your "housing farm." Once you become an expert, buy anything you can make money on in your farm.

The main reason people chase these properties.
1. Banks typically will not loan on badly damaged or trashed properties. If the kitchen is gone, most conventional loan buyers cannot get a loan.
2. Investors can gain some sweat equity by doing some of the rehabing themselves.
3. Since you are already doing work to the property you can modernize without spending too much money. (IE: Since your painting anyways, scraping the popcorn off the ceilings only adds a bit of labor).
4. Desirable neighborhoods sell faster. But really you should pick your market and work off of ARV instead. Try to buy stuff that is normal for the area, but under the median price. (IE: 1940-1980 construction, with at least 3 bedrooms 2 bathrooms, is what we focus on). Obviously, war zones, or places you are scared to get out of your car you should eliminate for your first couple flips.


I can't seem to find any hard money lenders in my area, which leaves me with traditional and self-financing. I'm thinking of purchasing a home in need of rehab that I could live in (which means it needs a kitchen like you said) and try for an FHA. I've spoken to a lot of people on here and in person that started by getting into homes they could live in to cut down on their living expenses, get FHA financing and lower the pressure on selling the property. Although I am the type of person that wants to hurry up and make all of my mistakes, I understand that you will almost always make mistakes and slowing down can help reduce them.

Post: "Worst house on block"

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

I've read posts about the "worst house on the block" in a good neighborhood, is that what most of you would consider ideal? Granted all of the other factors worked out. What are some of the benefits of this situation. I would think:

1) Bigger margin because you buy in cheap b/c of rehab but also comparing to nearby comps
2) Better chance of selling sooner

Anything else you can think of? Any disadvantages?

Post: DETROIT area

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

Hey David, I'm over in Ann Arbor, not too far away, are you looking for anything in particular?

Post: Running the numbers - How low will they go (banks)

Shane MPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Ann Arbor, MI
  • Posts 130
  • Votes 4

Good question, in fact the completely stripped bathroom, could that be left out of the square footage?

It is a pretty standard size for the neighborhood though