Skip to content
×
PRO
Pro Members Get Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
$0
TODAY
$69.00/month when billed monthly.
$32.50/month when billed annually.
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime
Already a Pro Member? Sign in here
Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties. Try BiggerPockets PRO.
x
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Troy Whitney

Troy Whitney has started 7 posts and replied 107 times.

Post: Thoughts On Clayton Morris

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

Why would anyone invest with this guy?  He burned a lot of people and split.  

Post: Velocity Mortgage

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by @Robert Grant:

@Troy Whitney  Hi Troy, I do still work for the company and have been here for 7yrs now.  We went public this past January and I can tell you with absolute certainty that most of the employees here (all the way up to and including the CEO) are some of the greatest and nicest human beings you'd ever want to work with, so forgive me if I'm a little taken aback by your comments. If I'm being completely honest here, our direct customers/clients would be "brokers & loan officers" since our business model is B2B.  We approve brokers as clients, who then deal directly with the borrower(s) - which would be you in this case - to resell our products on a nationwide scale. It appears that we funded your loan back in Jan of this year, and then your loan was serviced by Mr. Cooper.  Feel free to elaborate (either here or you can message me directly) so I can do my best to rectify the situation and hopefully turn your bad experience into a good one. If you were to ever meet me in person, you'd know immediately that I take great pride in this company and the work that we do - I would never stay 7yrs with a company that lacked integrity. Hope to hear back from you soon - Robert

Hello Robert.  I've been in touch with Velocity since I posted this and they actually may be willing to work with me on the issue at hand.  From my initial recent discussions with them, this is not something I expected but I may have spoken too soon.  I won't go into significant detail now.  I am feeling better now but I'll send over final word if the issue is resolved.   I appreciate you reaching out.      

Post: Velocity Mortgage

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by @Robert Grant:

Do you honestly think we don't want your business Steve?  Unfortunately once you get to our space, and even hard money, we say "No" to deals a lot more than "Yes".  I don't get paid a salary, so I wouldn't be here today if we didn't close loans.  I can tell just by your signature that you probably deal with more fix & flip investors, and we're absolutely not ideal for those types of scenarios.  We are a buy & hold lender so that's why we probably haven't been able to do a deal with you yet. 

I apologize if you felt shunned by our niche/boxy product, but it's always best practice to give you a quick and confident "I'm sorry, we can't do this deal.." than it is to drag you through the mud on a deal that we can't close in the end. 

Robert - are/were you a lender with Velocity Mortgage Capital?  Of all the alternative lenders I've dealt with, Velocity was BY
FAR the worst I've ever dealt with - I will be steering as many people as possible away from them.   Completely unethical, honestly horrible, horrible, horrible, and that's saying a lot when you are talking about the cesspool that is the hard-money lending industry.  

Post: Velocity Mortgage

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

It's a legitimate hard money lender, but is the worst of the worst when it comes to how they treat their customers.   I know from personal experience

Post: sell now, gather cash, be prepared and get ready. market crash.

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42
Originally posted by @Chris Gawlik:

There is so much at play here guys, that even the pros are not seeing or mentioning. There are so many people that are going to lose there jobs. If you think this is over, its not, its only just begun. Also, what your not realizing is that consumer confidence is at an all time low right now. Look at the graph below pretty simple to see, a slight uptick in the last month or so, but that will not last. Its going to get worse.

https://data.oecd.org/leadind/...

@Shayla L Otolorin Glad you mentioned inventory. Its something that keeps coming up from people who don't believe there will be a correction. The market is so strong right now in my area. Prices have gone up 10%-15%. Its not to hard to watch those vids that I posted to see whats coming. Supply and demand. There will be many, many, waves of defaults, foreclosures, short sales, from land lords defaulting, from home owners defaulting, vacation rentals defaulting. None of this is an issue right now because of the stimulus. Others have eluded to this as well, Once it stops then you will start to see the truth of what the economy really looks like. The stock market is a big party right now, but that will end with a huge correction as well. The market was headed for a recession before covid even hit.

Chris, so now you're calling for a "huge correction" in the stock market and suggesting that people buy mining stocks?  I agree that all of these things could happen, but you are all over the place here.  You aren't offering any sort of actionable thought here.   Right now it sounds like you think it's a good idea to sell your real estate, sell stock market holdings, and buy mining stocks.   Think about what you are saying here.  Mining stocks are NOT a safe-haven.  They are extremely volatile.  Will the overall stock market go down?  Absolutely.  When and how far?  Nobody knows. There are some things you are saying that I agree with, but man, try to keep to a coherent message please. 

Post: sell now, gather cash, be prepared and get ready. market crash.

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

Chris,  you are putting yourself out there, telling the world what you think is going to happen.  You think we are going to experience a crash in real estate prices.   You may be right, you may be wrong.   Is there a pandemic?  Yep.  Is it coming it coming to an end?  Yeah, at some point. When?   How much will the Fed help people that need it?  The 2008 crash happened due to many things, one of them being a ton of bad paper held by the banks.   Banks are not in the same position now that they were in 2008.   You can draw all the parallels to the last crisis but the truth is as they quote in the following article, "history doesn't repeat, it stutters":

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/can-we-compare-the-covid-19-and-2008-crises/

We have a tech economy that is firing on all cylinders.  We also have massive numbers of people out of work, so that the government may print another $10 trillion to keep them afloat.   If that happens, would it be bad to own a bunch of real estate?  Come back in a year and let's see where inflation is.   If you think re is gonna crash, are you also making the same prediction for hard assets and equities? If you are bearish stocks then you should probably short the stock market.  I dare you to short Tesla.   What about the bond market?  What's your stand on that?   All of these things move independently but impact each other.   I can tell you this:  There's an awful lot of money floating (more than ever before) and it has to go somewhere.   

Post: Modular construction for multifamily

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

Thanks Brock - I'll check it out.  Looks like several companies have stopped doing modular in this area.  Champion moved out of here.  Factory labor is too expensive.  I'll call Katerra.

Post: Modular construction for multifamily

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

Thanks Megay - I think I've heard of Champion. I'll check those two companies out thanks.

Post: Modular construction for multifamily

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

That's very interesting feedback Bjorn.  If you could send me the name of the manufacturer that'd be great, so I make sure the same thing doesn't happen on any of my projects.   I am interested if you can send me any info.  TY.  

Post: I’m 17 and don’t want to go to college

Troy WhitneyPosted
  • Contractor
  • Seattle, WA
  • Posts 137
  • Votes 42

As someone with a Master's degree, I strongly believe that education is both a wonderful thing and often overrated.  In my experience a college degree is good for two things:  1.  a job which requires a degree or a specific skillset, and 2.  some softer skills, namely how to study, how to communicate effectively in writing, some critical thinking skills, and it may help you build a network (but you can do this in many ways, obviously).  For many people the most important thing is that they get in to, not what they learned there.  Most people that go to Harvard Business School will tell you that it's all about the connections and more importantly, what you do with them. In reality, there are plenty of people who never went to college (or dropped out) who do just fine.     You might consider taking a few classes in subjects that you think will help you.  You will probably want to do some sort of course in real estate math, marketing and communication,  and consider getting a mentor, but don't fall into the trap of paying someone like GC $10,000 to go to a seminar - just don't do it. I will put in a plug here for Michael Blank's Dealmaker Mastermind here.  It's like $50/month, and if you join, watch the podcasts and run your own numbers on those deals presented, you'll learn how analyze multifamily properties. Also check out this podcast if you haven't.  It blew my mind:  https://themichaelblank.com/podcasts/session192/ It's a story about a guy that went from living on a friend's couch to owning over 500 units in ten years, all the while, his brother went to prison. I have had so many advantages over this guy and I don't own a fraction of what he does.    The truth is, unless you are entering a technical profession, it's unlikely anyone you sell a property to would care at all about whether or not you went to college.  If you can hustle, find deals and add value, then the money will find its way to you. If you want to be an investor, then figure out a way to save up some money and then leverage it.    I would also suggest that if you want to start out as an agent, and you want to work in the commercial space, then figure out what requirements there are to work in that space.  There is no one way to be successful.  An easier route might be to get your license and join a team (like Keller Williams has) and hustle like crazy.